bdb wrote:funny - it was that post that got me started ...
Nice to be of service
Do you use the harmony to control the toppy? - if so, why not just setup one toppy to use an alternate codeset.
Partly because it's just too much like hard work, and partly because one Toppy has a Slingbox hanging off it, and the other has a wireless AV sender. You can't configure anything useful on the Slingbox - you're stuck with whatever codes they've deigned to implement ... which isn't even all of the keys on the remote by any means. (e.g. Menu means Archive, and the White button doesn't exist and can't be fudged - so a whole new keyset is a total non-starter.) And we use the original remotes to control the Toppy via the AV sender when watching elsewhere in the house, without the benefit of the Amp.
How do you get the video out - scart/composite/svideo?
Haven't the faintest idea. The amp is Andy's box of tricks, and I leave him to sort it out
. Hopefully he'll post an answer.
I'd be interested in understanding how people have their 2 toppies wired up so that I can configure this to be as flexible as possible.
When we were setting up the two Toppies the other weekend, we found that using SCART to TV (not sure where FROM) mucked some things up, so we ditched it. IIRC, we got problems with aspect ratio switching when switching between Toppies and the DVD player or something. Again, Andy can probably elucidate.
Since there is no way to guarantee that both toppies will always see all the r/c commands it is important to have some other form of communication between them. The SCART connection is ideal for this; even if it is not used for A/V.
We've (just, tonight) tried to minimise problems by sending the Sat, <toppy num> sequence both on starting the relevant Toppy Activity on the Harmony (which should respond with a "Silver Toppy unlocked" or "Black Toppy unlocked" display on screen as appropriate), and also on exit from the Activity (which should respond with a "Silver Toppy locked" or "Black Toppy locked" as appropriate). This is using BobD's hard-coded TAP.
This means that the Use "other" Toppy activity on the Harmony sends the Sat, <other Toppy> sequence, then switches to the other Toppy, and finally sends the Sat <this Toppy> sequence again (the same sequence, but now we're using the other Toppy). This a) results in a visual confirmation (or lack of it) that the Toppy you're switching away from HAS been locked, and b) gives us a second chance at locking it anyway.
I've also got different MyStuff skins on each Toppy as another visual way of differentiating between machines. (Just press Info/Guide/Archive to get both info about what's on and info about which Toppy you're watching.)
It would be possible to use the vcr-scart to vcr-scart just for the comms, leaving the tv-scarts as permanently on A/V; which would provide access to the RGB/component signals.
Interesting thought - totally over my head in anything other than concept
. Feel free to elaborate if anybody less dense than me would need any more info on how to do this.
A message on the led might be useful.
Indeed. I did think right from the outset that it would be good if anything could be done using the TF5000 Display TAP.
I thought about lighting the amber led to indicate the active (or disabled) box.
Can't for the life of me remember what I've got that set up to mean in the Display TAP, so might as well use it for indicating which Toppy is listening! Is there (API access to) a Red LED? How about Green LED for listening and Red/Orange LED for locked? Or maybe solid amber for locked, and blinking amber for listening? (Does anything natively use the amber LED? If not, that's definitely a good one to use if you use blinking/solid amber as your indicator, as absence of amber LED means "TAP not running at all - press buttons at your peril"
). Don't know how this would interact with TF5000 Display, of course ... but I would happily change the config of that to leave the amber LED alone, or whatever.
The more robust scart communication on this tap should alleviate the need to lock the other box. With my setup, you are always in control of the box that is providing the picture.
That would certainly deal with any potential problems if one of us wants to watch one Toppy via Slingbox or AV sender, while the other is using the other one. As things stand now, we'd still have to resort to physical barriers around the IR sensor. (btw, I even got the manual out, to try to find out - where exactly IS the IR sensor?)
Looks like we'd better work out how to set up the Toppies so that we can try out and use your TAP
. Not likely to happen in the near future, I'm afraid, as we're both working late atm, and away this weekend.