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Post by jimi »

I updated it after I read your post, I still had TM open and connected to my Toppy so probably would have got any notification.
I did get the usual notification when I initially started TM to do the update & retune.
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Post by YorkshireJumbo »

Thanks. Just updated them and rescanned.

The MUX on channel 33 currently seems to have disappeared off Emley Moor again , so I lost a few channels, mostly Channel 5's sister channels, as well as Quest, etc. But I couldn't record off them anyway as they're often poor quality, so I often record the HD versions on the youview box
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Post by dgc188 »

Just been checking through the latest updates to the Freeview channel listing.

The channel numbering update is easy enough to do but it might appear that ceegeebee has gone offline now and his valuable updates appear to be no longer available. Is anyone likely to have the relevant SvcId, etc. information should there be any future updates/new channels, such as GB News coming next year? Or possibly a latest freeview.dat file.

I have two of the 5800 Toppies running - despite having bought a (crappy) Humax 12 months ago - which I though would be an improvement on the Toppy - but no. Whoever wrote THAT software didn't know what he was doing. Awful! And the tuning - don't mention the tuning. I can receive three main stations and it always seems to pick the weakest (not my) region to tune to. Rubbish machine!

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Post by ccs »

.... those files are being kept up-to-date.

http://www.geeceebee.co.uk/channelorganiserdatafiles
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Post by dgc188 »

Ooops! my mistake. It helps when I copy & save the correct address.
Egg on face, eh?
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

@dgc188

The easiest way to update these files is through the TopManager Tools| Install Files interface. Each time TM opens a connection to a toppy, it checks to see if the versions on the toppy need to be updated (this assumes that the computer running TM has access to the internet) i.e run TM to see if new versions are available and also to download/install them for you (no need to remember websites or do manual downloading/transfer of files).

Your signature looks pretty ancient (as is mine). In particular, it doesn't show if the PruneEPG tap is present. I suggest you install TM and use it to display your MyInfo Log; then copy and paste into a new thread (not this one). The log might show something else you should address.

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Post by Geoff Bacon »

It appears that ITV+1 (LCN 34) uses different SvcIds in the different regions (thanks to dgc188 for providing information from his system); I was under the impression that a common number was used for this channel).

I have just uploaded a new version of Freeview.dat which uses SvcId=-1 for LCN 34; this allows ChannelOrganiser to accept any value for the SvcId.

Note: TM/PcControl/Channel Management uses a different mechanism from CO and would have automatically adjusted for the discovered SvcId.

Those who use TM will be alerted to the new version of the file when they next run TM. If you have already re-tuned since 04-Nov-20 then no retune is necessary (just use Tools| Install Files to download the latest version to avoid getting the message each time you run TM).

Freeview(Scotland) is not affected.

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Post by russellelly »

Just a quick note than the Scottish version of Freeview.dat isn't quite right - local is on LCN 8 here, BBC ALBA (on LCN 7) is on PSB1, but Freeview.dat expects it on the local mux. Strangely, the entiy for STV+1 is correct, but LCN 3 should be STV, not ITV here (well, in STV-land, not in the border region!).

I made a few updates that seem to keep everything happy...

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"# For Channel Organiser (CO), doc ChannelOrganiser.pdf. Current Freeview channels+data for CO to update Ini etc files. All after # ignored."																	
#@IgnoreCases=On	# On/Off (default); when comparing channel names																
#@IgnoreSpaces=On	#  On/Off (default) when comparing channel names																
#@Wildcard=~		# when comparing channel names - default is '~' 
#A toppy can only receive on the following muxes: PSB1, PSB2, COM4, COM5, COM6 and Local															

### Note: LCN=9 is BBC FOUR except in Scotland where ["LCN=9 Name=BBC Scotland" and "LCN=24 Name=BBC FOUR"] 
LCN=1	Name=BBC ONE~	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=bbc1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment							
LCN=2	Name=BBC TWO~	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=bbc2	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment							
LCN=3	Name=STV      	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=ITV1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment							
LCN=4	Name=Channel 4	SvcId=8384	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Ch 4	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment							
LCN=5	Name=Channel 5	SvcId=8500	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Ch 5	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment							
LCN=6	Name=ITV2    	SvcId=8325	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=ITV2	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment							
LCN=7	Name=BBC ALBA	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Lcl	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment			

LCN=8	Name=~      	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=Local	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Lcl	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Local			

### Note: LCN=9 is BBC FOUR except in Scotland where ["LCN=9 Name=BBC Scotland" and "LCN=24 Name=BBC FOUR"]
### Note: If in Scotland, replace LCN=9 in next line with ###=9 i.e. comment it out
###=9	Name=BBC FOUR	SvcId=4544	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=bbc4	StartTime=1900	EndTime=0530	Content=Entertainment							

### Note: If in Scotland, replace ###=9 in next line with LCN=9 i.e. enable next line for BBC Scotland
LCN=9	Name=BBC Scotland	SvcId=4924	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Scot	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment							
### Note: If in Scotland, see entry for LCN 2

LCN=10	Name=ITV3	SvcId=8294	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=ITV3	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment							

LCN=11	Name=Sky Arts	SvcId=22144	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=ITV3	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=12	Name=QUEST	SvcId=14498	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Qust	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=13	Name=E4	SvcId=8448	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=E4	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=14	Name=Film4	SvcId=8385	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Fil4	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Films
LCN=15	Name=Channel 4+1	SvcId=8452	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=C4P1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,+1"
LCN=16	Name=QVC	SvcId=13120	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=QVC	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping
LCN=17	Name=Really	SvcId=23712	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=real	StartTime=0800	EndTime=0400	Content=Entertainment
LCN=18	Name=More 4	SvcId=8442	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=mor4	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,Repeats"
LCN=19	Name=Dave	SvcId=22272	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Dave	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,Repeats"
LCN=20	Name=Drama	SvcId=16208	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Drma	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment

LCN=21	Name=5 USA	SvcId=12992	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=5USA	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=22	Name=Ideal World	SvcId=25920	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Id W	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping

### Note: BBC Four is on LCN 24 in Scotland
### Note: If in Scotland, replace ###=24 in next line with LCN=24 i.e. enable next line for BBC Four in Scotland
LCN=24	Name=BBC FOUR	SvcId=4544	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=bbc4	StartTime=1900	EndTime=0530	Content=Entertainment							

LCN=25	Name=ITV4	SvcId=8330	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=ITV4	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=26	Name=Yesterday	SvcId=25792	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Yest	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,Repeats"
LCN=27	Name=ITVBe	SvcId=15856	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=IITVBe	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,Shopping"
LCN=28	Name=ITV2 +1	SvcId=15952	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=I2P1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,+1"
LCN=29	Name=E4+1	SvcId=8458	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=E4P1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,+1"
LCN=30	Name=4Music	SvcId=22368	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=4Mus	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,Music"

LCN=31	Name=5STAR	SvcId=12928	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=5 St	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=32	Name=Paramount Network	SvcId=16112	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Para	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment"
LCN=33	Name=Sony Movies	SvcId=27872	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=SM	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Films

### Note: LCN=34 is ITV+1 except in Scotland where it is STV+1
### Note: If in Scotland, replace LCN=34 in next line with ###Eng=34 i.e. comment it out
###Eng=34	Name=ITV +1	SvcId=8368	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=I1P1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,+1"
### Note: If in Scotland, replace ###Scot=34 in next line with LCN=34 i.e. enable next line for STV+1
LCN=34	Name=STV+1	SvcId=8373	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=I1P1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,+1"

LCN=35	Name=Pick 	SvcId=22208	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Pick	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=36	Name=QVC Beauty	SvcId=28288	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=QVCB	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping
LCN=37	Name=QVC Style	SvcId=28256	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=QVCS	StartTime=0100	EndTime=0500	Content=Shopping
LCN=38	Name=DMAX	SvcId=27680	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=DMAX	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Travel
LCN=39	Name=Quest Red	SvcId=23744	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=QtRd	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=40	Name=CBS Justice	SvcId=27744	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=CBSA	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment

LCN=41	Name=Sony Movies Action	SvcId=15576	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=SMA	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Films
LCN=42	Name=Food Network	SvcId=23040	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Food	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=43	Name=HGTV	SvcId=28000	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=HGTV	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=44	Name=Gems TV	SvcId=24448	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Gems	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping
LCN=45	Name=Channel 5+1	SvcId=13024	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=5P1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,+1"
LCN=46	Name=Film4+1	SvcId=22464	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Fil4P1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Films,+1"
LCN=47	Name=Challenge	SvcId=22226	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Chal	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=48	Name=4seven	SvcId=22528	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=4-7	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=49	Name=Sony Channel	SvcId=33984	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=Local	HasEpg=1	FpdName=TrEt	StartTime=0600	EndTime=0300	Content=Entertainment
LCN=50	Name=TJC	SvcId=15592	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=JeCh	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping

LCN=51	Name=Sony Movies Christmas	SvcId=34048	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=Local	HasEpg=1	FpdName=TrCr	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment

LCN=55	Name=5SELECT	SvcId=16080	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=5+24	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Mixed

LCN=56	Name=Smithsonian Channel	SvcId=23152	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=smth	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=57	Name=ITVBe+1 	SvcId=15864	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=ITVBeP1	StartTime=0400	EndTime=0500	"Content=Entertainment,+1"
LCN=58	Name=ITV3+1	SvcId=16016	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=I3P1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=59	Name=ITV4+1	SvcId=15920	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=I4+1	StartTime=0500	EndTime=0600	"Content=Entertainment,Shopping,+1"
LCN=60	Name=Sony Movies +1	SvcId=33664	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=Local	HasEpg=1	FpdName=SMC+1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,Shopping"

LCN=63	Name=Blaze	SvcId=14384	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Blz	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=66	Name=CBS Reality	SvcId=14448	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=CBSR	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=67	Name=CBS Drama	SvcId=27776	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=CBSD	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=68	Name=Horror Channel	SvcId=14480	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=HorC	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=69	Name=QUEST+1	SvcId=23808	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Qt+1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,+1"

LCN=73	Name=CCXTV	SvcId=13008	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=CBSA1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content= Entertainment

LCN=74	Name=Yesterday+1	SvcId=23872	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=YestP1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,Repeats"
LCN=77	Name=TCC	SvcId=14488	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=TCC	StartTime=1000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=78	Name=NOW 70s	SvcId=23904	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Now70	StartTime=0700	EndTime=2200	Content=Interactive	
LCN=23	Name=Dave ja vu	SvcId=28096	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=DJV	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,Repeats"
LCN=80	Name=Blaze+1	SvcId=14388	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Blz+1	StartTime=0400	EndTime=0500	"Content=Entertainment,+1"

LCN=81	Name=TalkingPictures TV	SvcId=28224	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=TalkP	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment"

LCN=85	Name=Hochanda	SvcId=23328	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Zone	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping
###=86	Name=VIVA+1	SvcId=25700	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM7	HasEpg=1	FpdName=VIVA+1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,Music,+1"
LCN=87	Name=Together TV	SvcId=24192	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=ToTV	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Entertainment,+1"
LCN=91	Name=PBS America	SvcId=27968	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=PBS	StartTime=1300	EndTime=2300	"Content=Entertainment,+1"
LCN=93	Name=TJC Choice	SvcId=27488	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=TJCCh	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping
LCN=94	Name=Ideal Extra	SvcId=34112	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=Local	HasEpg=1	FpdName=iDeX	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping
LCN=95	Name=Create & Craft	SvcId=13000	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=C_C	StartTime=0700	EndTime=2200	Content=Shopping
LCN=100	Name=Freeview	SvcId=8600	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=1	FpdName=FInf	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Interactive

LCN=201	Name=CBBC	SvcId=4608	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=cbbc	StartTime=0700	EndTime=2100	Content=Children
LCN=202	Name=CBeebies	SvcId=4672	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=cbbs	StartTime=0600	EndTime=1900	Content=Children
LCN=203	Name=CITV	SvcId=16032	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=CITV	StartTime=0600	EndTime=1800	Content=Children
LCN=206	Name=POP	SvcId=27424	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Pop	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Children
LCN=207	Name=Tiny Pop	SvcId=33472	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=Local	HasEpg=1	FpdName=TPop	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Children,Local"
LCN=208	Name=POP Max	SvcId=33280	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=Local	HasEpg=1	FpdName=kix	StartTime=0600	EndTime=0400	Content=Children
LCN=211	Name=Ketchup	SvcId=16200	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=KTV	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Children
LCN=212	Name=YAAAS!	SvcId=12952	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Yaas	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Children

LCN=231	Name=BBC NEWS	SvcId=4352	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=bbcn	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=News
LCN=232	Name=BBC Parliament	SvcId=4736	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=bbcp	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=News
LCN=233	Name=Sky News	SvcId=22080	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Skyn	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=News
LCN=234	Name=RT	SvcId=27456	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Russ	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=News
LCN=235	Name=Al Jazeera Eng	SvcId=27712	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=AlJ	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=News
LCN=250	Name=BBC Red Button	SvcId=4416	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=0	FpdName=bbcr	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Interactive
LCN=251	Name=365 Travel	SvcId=14784	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=hols	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping
LCN=252	Name=Kiss Chat & Date	SvcId=15080	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=Skyt	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Interactive
LCN=253	Name=Proud Dating	SvcId=15096	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=PD	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Interactive
LCN=260	Name=CCTV	SvcId=15048	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=CCTV	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=News

LCN=261	Name=Racing TV	SvcId=15032	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Race	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Sport
LCN=262	Name=CONNECT 4	SvcId=15056	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Con4	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Arts
LCN=263	Name=Sonlife	SvcId=15016	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=Son	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=264	Name=VisionTV	SvcId=15456	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=Visn	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=265	Name=On Demand 365	SvcId=15064	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=PK	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=266	Name=Sports Channel Network	SvcId=15464	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=SCN	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=267	Name=Revelation TV	SvcId=15568	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=RevTV	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=268	Name=Box Nation	SvcId=14416	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=box	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=269	Name=Arise News	SvcId=15432	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=AN	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=270	Name=Loveworld	SvcId=15000	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=LW	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	

LCN=271	Name=Channelbox	SvcId=15448	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=Chbx	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Shopping	
LCN=274	Name=Asia TV	SvcId=15072	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1 FpdName=Asia	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	

LCN=555	Name=Accessible TV Guide	SvcId=8601	RtCode=0	Type=Web TV	Mux=PSB2	HasEpg=0	FpdName=ATVg	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment

LCN=601	Name=BBC RB 1	SvcId=7168	RtCode=0	Type=Int TV	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=601	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=670	Name=ADULT Section	SvcId=15200	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=AdSc	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Porn,Nil"	#Section heading only
LCN=671	Name=Television X	SvcId=15232	RtCode=0	Type=PPV TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Tv X	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0400	Content=Porn	
LCN=672	Name=ADULT smileTV2	SvcId=27520	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=sml2	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0500	Content=Porn	
LCN=673	Name=ADULT smileTV3	SvcId=22400	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=sml3	StartTime=2200	EndTime=0500	Content=Porn	
LCN=674	Name=ADULT Babestn	SvcId=27904	RtCode=0	Type=PPV TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=babs	StartTime=2300	EndTime=0500	Content=Porn	
LCN=675	Name=ADULT Party	SvcId=15512	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Prty	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0700	Content=Porn	

LCN=678	Name=ADULT Xpanded TV	SvcId=24128	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Blue	StartTime=0400	EndTime=0530	Content=Porn	
LCN=679	Name=ADULT Studio 66	SvcId=27616	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=S66	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0600	Content=Porn	
LCN=680	Name=ADULT Xpanded2	SvcId=14544	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=XTV	StartTime=0300	EndTime=0700	Content=Porn	
LCN=681	Name=ADULT Studio 66	SvcId=14576	RtCode=0	Type=TV	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=S66	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0600	Content=Porn	

LCN=695	Name=695	SvcId=15208	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=Adsc	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Porn,Nil"	#Section heading only
LCN=696	Name=696	SvcId=15176	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=0	FpdName=Adsc	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Porn,Nil"	#Section heading only
LCN=697	Name=697	SvcId=24500	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=0	FpdName=Adsc	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Porn,Nil"	#Section heading only
LCN=698	Name=698	SvcId=28520	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=0	FpdName=Adsc	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Porn,Nil"	#Section heading only
LCN=699	Name=ADULT Section	SvcId=27584	RtCode=0	Type=Text	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=0	FpdName=Adsc	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	"Content=Porn,Nil"	#Section heading only

LCN=700	Name=BBC Radio 1	SvcId=6720	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R 1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=701	Name=BBC R1X	SvcId=5888	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R 1E	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=702	Name=BBC Radio 2	SvcId=6784	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R 2	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=703	Name=BBC Radio 3	SvcId=6848	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R 3	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=704	Name=BBC Radio 4	SvcId=6912	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R 4	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=705	Name=BBC R5L	SvcId=5632	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R 5L	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=706	Name=BBC R5SX	SvcId=5696	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R5SX	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Sport	
LCN=707	Name=BBC 6 Music	SvcId=5760	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R 6M	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Music	
LCN=708	Name=BBC Radio 4 Ex	SvcId=5824	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R4X	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=709	Name=BBC Asian Net.	SvcId=5952	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=R As	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment	
LCN=710	Name=BBC World Sv.	SvcId=6016	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=RWld	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=711	Name=Hits Radio	SvcId=26560	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=RHit	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Music
LCN=712	Name=KISS FRESH	SvcId=27040	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=KFR	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Music
LCN=713	Name=KISS	SvcId=26176	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Kiss	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Music
LCN=714	Name=KISSTORY	SvcId=26752	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Kissty	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=715	Name=Magic	SvcId=26624	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Mgc	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=716	Name=Greatest Hits Radio	SvcId=26240	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=GHR	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=717	Name=Kerrang!	SvcId=26304	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Kerr	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=718	Name=Smooth Radio	SvcId=26368	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=SmFM	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=719	Name=BBC~	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Reg1	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Local   # Regional Wales or Ulster
LCN=720	Name=BBC~	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Reg2	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Local   # Regional languages
LCN=721	Name=BBC~	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Reg2	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Local   # Regional languages
LCN=722	Name=BBC~	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Reg2	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Local   # Regional languages
LCN=723	Name=talkSPORT	SvcId=22592	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=TSpt	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Sport
LCN=724	Name=Capital	SvcId=14752	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Capl	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=725	Name=Premier Radio	SvcId=28160	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM6	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Absr	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=726	Name=BBC Solent Dorset	SvcId=6211	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Sole	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=727	Name=Absolute Radio	SvcId=14688	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Sole	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment
LCN=728	Name=Heart	SvcId=14720	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM4	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Hart	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment 
LCN=730	Name=RNIB Connect	SvcId=22624	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=ISR	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment  
LCN=731	Name=Classic FM	SvcId=22848	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=CFM	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment  
LCN=732	Name=LBC	SvcId=22880	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=LBC	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment 
LCN=733	Name=Trans World Radio	SvcId=22912	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=COM5	HasEpg=1	FpdName=LBC	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Entertainment 
LCN=734	Name=BBC~	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Reg2	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Local   # Regional languages
LCN=735	Name=BBC~	SvcId=-1	RtCode=0	Type=Radio	Mux=PSB1	HasEpg=1	FpdName=Reg2	StartTime=0000	EndTime=0000	Content=Local   # Regional languages

@FirstInvalidLcn=750										
@LastUpdated=17:03 on 20/12/2020 # Update this!
"## CO B1.2 (obs) limits: 150 lines, 20,000 bytes"	


Hope that helps someone!

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I'm using the last version Geoff issued, doesn't seem to be causing any problems, all my channels show as they should :?
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@jimi

That's because you are using TopManager to do the tuning; TM adapts to what it discovers whereas CO checks that the fields are exactly as stated in the Freeview.dat file (I remember that EMJB didn't agree that my method was correct!).

When changing the files, I use the CO output to identify the lines that need changing so it does have some uses.

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Geoff Bacon wrote:@jimi

That's because you are using TopManager to do the tuning; TM adapts to what it discovers whereas CO checks that the fields are exactly as stated in the Freeview.dat file (I remember that EMJB didn't agree that my method was correct!).

When changing the files, I use the CO output to identify the lines that need changing so it does have some uses.

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Up until now, I have managed Freeview.dat and Freeview(Scotland).dat as two separate files. After changing Freeview.dat, I had to apply the same changes to the Scottish version - a real pain because there is so much information on each line making it difficult to find the required fields and eyeballing the files to ensure they are similar.

During the Xmas break, I have created a program to generate these files from a common input file. Note: the program still has to generate two versions of the input file (I didn't want to modify the ChannelOrganiser tap or TopManager).

Merging into a single file has has allowed me to simplify the format making it easier for me to see the important fields e.g. RtCode is no longer used so it can be omitted from each input line (it still needs to be present in the file for CO). I can now also ensure that there are no simple errors like duplicate entries (LCNs, Names, SvcIds, etc), invalid numbers or unrecognised keys/values. This means that the generated files are less likely to have mistypes.

Because the files are now generated for each variant, I have been able to remove the mucky comment lines flagging the differences between the versions (these were put in solely for me to to identify the bits that needed modifying).

Should it be necessary, I could easily modify the program to generate a Welsh variant of the Freeview file (I'd rather not - but could if someone required it)

The fields in Freeview.dat that are likely to differ from your previous file are:

RtCode=0
These values are all 0 (The Radio Times Epg feed has not worked for a couple of years). [update] Looking at the previous files, I see that I had already set these values to 0 [/update]

Type='TV,Radio,Web TV,Text,Int TV,Pay TV'
CO ignores anything other than values in the above list ie it was ignoring a PPV TV (PayPerView TV) value

HasEpg=1
I've defaulted this for every LCN on the basis that channels need to advertise that they exist.
This may or not be true - I haven't checked out the Porn Channels (honest!)

StartTime=0000, EndTime=0000
I've defaulted this for every LCN on the basis that, during periods when they are not broadcasting, the Epg still shows something like "This is ...".
This means that, should a station change it's broadcast hours, no adjustment will need to made to the Epg collection times stored in EPG2MEI.ini
Note: Channels that are not currently broadcasting will still show "No Information" entries until they restart broadcasting; this is an EPG2MEI issue (not the fault of MyStuff)

The only time I think we would need the StartTime and EndTime keywords again is when a channel is known to be broadcasting incorrect Epg information. For example, a few years ago, a 24 hour Virgin channel had a +1 channel that shutdown for part of the night. Unfortunately, because it used the same full 24 hour EPG (adjusted by 1 hour), this caused issues because MyStuff occasionally chose an alternative +1 programme during this 'dead' period.

Content
The code in CO only considers the first key value (and a possible "+1"). This means that previously, those entries with multiple values like "Entertainment,Shopping" were just being recognised as "Entertainment".
I have moved these extra values into a comment at the end of the line.

Editing the files yourself
If necessary, you can make changes to these files (please let me know what you changed and why).
Just edit the files as before using something like Notepad.
The file should be easier to read because I have added judicious spaces to the values to help the keywords line up in columns (when editing the file, don't forget that each Key name, apart from LCN=, needs a tab character immediately before it)

Was it worth it?
In terms of time spent creating the program versus time maintaining two separate files - No.
In terms of giving me a challenge - Yes.

Happy New Year when it comes

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Thanks Geoff, your continued efforts are much appreciated
All the best for next year 8)

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fhjones found that his toppy was displaying the native EPG rather than the MyStuff one.
After much effort and reformatting on his part, it turned out that EPG2MEI.ini had [Excludes] for each scanned channel. (Extend.ini probably also has these excludes as it uses the same processing code).

Investigating, I see that TM is looking for <tab>HasEPG=1<tab> to see whether or not a channel should be excluded. Unfortunately, this doesn't match because my reformatted file has spaces after the 1 (to aid alignment of fields).

As a temporary measure, I have regenerated the Freeview files without these additional spaces. So, if you need to rescan with TM, make sure that you use the latest version of the file (15 Jan 2021). As far as I know, CO will work with my aligned fields file or the squeezed one.

In the very near future, I need to provide an updated version of TM. This is because Google Sites (who provide the GeeCeeBee website) is changing from "Classic Google Sites" to "New Google Sites". A new version is required because the existing released versions of TM will not be able to find web files on the new site.

Many apologies to fhjones (and anyone else who has been affected)

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Post by jimi »

So which verson of Freeview.dat causes the problem ?
My Freeview(Scotland).dat is dated 28/12/20 but I can't remember if I rescanned when I updated it.
MyStuff EPG is working properly
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+Pe
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; Extend v1.7; EPG2MEI v0.96; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; Font Manager 1.0d; MHEG On/Off A3; (MyInfo B5.6); PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6;
Sig generated by TopManager/PcControl on 16/12/20
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