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Post by jimi »

If I upgrade now will it work ? I have a spare Toppy set up and running at the moment ( I'm playing with a Pi and OSMC) so I can easily test it ?
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Post by YorkshireJumbo »

That's a lot of hard work due to Google. Many thanks for keeping this up to date and continuing to improve it - much appreciated :D
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

@jimi

Yes, you can upgrade now (just use the download page on the visible GeeCeeBee site)

@yj
You are right, it was a lot of work - I thought I'd use the lockdown to sort it out as Google has been trying to close off the Classic method for about 18 months (but kept extending the deadline - now sometime in Oct 2021?).

It took several days to sort out/understand the Google Drive sharing options (I don't want everyone having access to anything else I might use it for!). Storing the files on something like the forum site would have been easier but I also have a Ukulele site that needs converting so I need to get to grips with it.

Although Classic Google Sites is quite restrictive in what you can do, the New Google Sites is even more crippled! There are better platforms mechanisms but these involve spending money!.

AVG CyberCapture was also a big issue for GCBMyStuffInstaller (it is ready but not yet released). Basically, when it detects a new program running, AVG blocks it while it analyses/talks to it's servers. When it gets the all clear, it KILLS the running program and relaunches it. This means that, because GCBMSI has done an indeterminate amount of work before it was blocked, the relaunched program fails because the files it was writing are still open (why couldn't it just have resumed the blocked process?). This was a bu66er to find the cause because the IDE breakpoints weren't firing (they were in the blocked program and not in the relaunched one). AVG CyberCapture also limits what you can run/create in the Downloads folder (I typically "Extract All" my zips into a folder in Downloads and run/use them from there (this involved trying to write code that would give appropriate messages - and XP doesn't have a guaranteed mechanism to determine the download area anyway).

Basically, it is a bit like doing jigsaws and sudoku - a great feeling when you have solved the problems.

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Blimey! :shock: It's never easy, is it :roll:
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Post by jimi »

Updated to V7 (win7 Pro 64bit OS) no problems, seems to work fine. Didn't get an notification of a new logo pack (is it supposed to ?) updated it manually on the test toppy, no problems. seems faster.
Cheers Geoff, thanks again for your efforts, much appreciated 8)
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

Thanks for confirming that it worked ok (always nice to know that it works on something other than the development machine).

I don't check for updates to the logo packs (gramps has just asked me the same question); I just check Freeview, FvTxData ( you will be informed if changed) and a couple of others used internally by TM (which you aren't notified about when changes occur)

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Post by jimi »

No problem, I'll try it on my Win10 (64bit pro) PC and my main toppy tomorrow..
For info, I'm connecting using TM -> FTP -> LAN -> Pi -> USB -> Toppy, not a straight USB connection
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Post by jimi »

As above, installed and tested using my Win10 PC.
Windows Firewall initially blocked it but once cleared it ran OK, it defaulted to offering to install a new Freeview.dat which I declined.
I manually installed Freeview(Scotland).dat (although I already had the latest version) closed and restarted TM and it now defaults to Freeview(Scotland).dat (no offer to install as it's up to date) 8)
Great stuff, looks like it works fine on Wiin10. :D


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Post by Geoff Bacon »

@jimi

Thanks for that - it should work fine on Win10 because that is what I use.

I'm a bit surprised that it wanted to install a Freeview.dat file as it should have looked in the TM settings file and offered you the Scottish version (assuming that is what you had previously selected). - I'll check the code.

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If the TM settings file is stored on the PC then that would explain it. It was a new installation of TM on that PC, I normally use my Win7 PC for all TM/Toppy/PVR/Pi related stuff 8)
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

That makes sense; it will only honour your choice of Freeview after it knows what it is! (on a first install, it chooses Freeview.dat)

Cheers
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Post by CharlieBoy »

Thanks Geoff. With two Toppies still in daily use I appreciate your effort.

Cheers
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Many thanks CharlieBoy

Stay safe
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Post by philbrown »

Thanks Geoff

Just resurecting and old toppy and installed TM v7 and got the following message
<<< AutoUpdater could not find pccTCOperations_input4.txt

Any ideas?

Also when checking MyStuff I got

Favourites folder: \ProgramFiles\Settings\MyStuff\FavLists\
<<< 'All BBCs.mcl' refers to nonexistent channel (68)

<<< Note: Errors in a favourite file will cause issues in MyStuff


Channel 68 does exist but not BBC. I don't use favourites. How do I fix this?

Thanks for the ongoing work.

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Post by Geoff Bacon »

Hi Phil,

Sorry about the missing file - I must have removed it when cleaning up my Google Drive.
Close TM and rerun (no need to reinstall)- the message should no longer appear (I had to run it twice - I suspect that it took a copy from the pc's cache the first time).


You can fix the LCN 68 in 2 ways
1) use PCcontrol| Edit Favourites; select the "All BBCs.mcl" in Favourites box. Select (i.e. click it) 68 in left pane and click Remove, Save and Z1 buttons (in that order)
2) Alternatively, use Connection| Browse. Browse to Settings\MyStuff\FavLists. Select the All BBCs file and "Edit" it; delete the offending line and save. Note: MS won't know about the change until it next restarts (the Z1 in step 1 tells it to refresh the files).

Cheers
Geoff
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