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UKKid35
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DescriptionExtender Issue

Post by UKKid35 »

The first line of the description is missing for all programs, as shown here

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This happened ages ago when I replaced a hard drive, but I never got around to doing anything about it

Any advice most welcome


Please note I have DescriptionExtender running, although it's not in my signature

Running TAPS:
Slot 0: EPGnavigator v5.1c : EPGnavigator v5.1c - English
Slot 1: QuickJump 1.72 : Jump with the coloured buttons
Slot 2: DescriptionExtender 2.23 : Provides long TAP EPG descriptions
Slot 3: MyInfo B5.5 : Displays & records Toppy basic info
Slots 4 - 15 not used

Found Auto Start TAP which is no longer running: UK Auto Scheduler v0.73.1 (Filename: UkAuto.tap)
TF5800, IA On, TS On, F/W: 5.13.65BfBqCeCkCwCyEcEeEfEpErEsFGmHHeKtMhNfOtPPcRRaRhRpRsSSdSrStT2TdTfTpTsUUuVrXpXw
TAPs: UK Auto Scheduler v0.73; EPGnavigator v5.1c; QuickJump 1.71; MyInfo B5.5;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 12/2/11
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

You must be one of the few people still running DescriptionExtender.tap; most are using the [De] patch (which comes courtesy of the MyStuff installer).

I'm not sure that the [De] patch is compatible with EPG Navigator - there is a 7 page thread about it which you could work through to see if it was ever released for general use.

Obviously no one is going to try and fix the DescriptorExtender tap so, if it bugs you, you need to find out whether there is a version of navigator that supports [De]

If there is, I suggest you use the Build Offline MyStuff Installer (from my website) and install MyStuff (option 1) - this will give you all the patches you require plus add some extra taps to Auto Start and the \ProgramFiles\Utilities folder. Then, as you wish to run EPGNavigator, remove the taps that the installer added to Auto Start. You should not remove the PruneEPG tap; this prevents the EPG buffer overflowing.

I also see that your signature doesn't include the T letter in the version; T believe "T" was added so that other members could easily see that the firmware had the relevant patches i.e. you are missing some desirable and possibly essential patches.

You could post an up-to-date MyInfo Log.
Note: your signature implies that MyInfo is version 5.5; you would need to update that first.
The easiest way is to install TopManager on your windows pc and use the Tools| Install Files| MyInfo option. Then, run MyInfo (or reboot and wait 2 mins) and use the Display| MyInfo Log option. Use copy and paste operations to add the log to this thread.

Geoff
PS: Suggest you take a copy of everything in \ProgramFiles before performing the MyStuff Install (one shouldn't need to normally but you aren't running a standard setup)
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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPePfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; MHEG On/Off A3; QuickJump 1.72; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; WSSkiller V2.12d; MyInfo B5.6; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6-1;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 3/5/21
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Post by alan_m »

Geoff Bacon wrote:You must be one of the few people still running DescriptionExtender.tap; most are using the [De] patch (which comes courtesy of the MyStuff installer).
From memory, the last version of EPGNav that I used had a menu option to select the tap or the de patch.

Edit
See
https://forum.toppy.org.uk/forum/viewto ... 150#196150

The link in the first line of the post
https://forum.toppy.org.uk/forum/viewto ... 595#174595
appers to allow a download of EPGNav V6 (which may still report as 5.1c)
Ex Toppy 5800 user - now migrated to Xtrend ET10000 Enigma 2 box with 2 terrestrial and 2 satellite tuners. Second box Zgemma H9S (Enigma 2, satellite)
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Post by simonc »

Wow, it's 10 years since I decided that hacking around in MIPS assembler was far too tedious and best left to people more skilled at it!

Yes, try the De patch instead, hopefully that'll do the trick. There's no way I've got the skills anymore to work out what's going on here :lol:
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Post by MikB »

Geoff Bacon wrote:You must be one of the few people still running DescriptionExtender.tap ..
I'm the other one :)

As a data point, I still use Description Extender 2.1 and EPGNavigator 5.1c on TF5800 -- I just checked Film4 and I can see full details of the programme info.
Toppy Taps: http://toppy.signal11.org.uk

TF5800, IA On, TS On, F/W: 5.13.65T 14/4/2009 -AbCkEeEfEpHeKtRaRhRsSdStSyTeTfTpTsVr+Pf
TAPs: DescriptionExtender 2.1; MeiSearch 1.30; EPG Clean V1.01 Dev Version; EPGnavigator v5.1c; MyInfo B5.6;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 17/1/15
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

Well that shows it is possible.
The only obvious difference from the above is that MikB is using an older version of Description Extender.
I suggest you both post your MyInfo logs so that we can identify whether or not there are other differences. @UKKId35: please update your MyInfo first (using TopManager as described above)

Geoff
TopManager program
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPePfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; MHEG On/Off A3; QuickJump 1.72; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; WSSkiller V2.12d; MyInfo B5.6; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6-1;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 3/5/21
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Post by MikB »

Here's mine ...

Code: Select all

                    MyInfo B5.6 Logging settings etc on: 17/11/2018 at 07:31

Ini file found
System ID: 456
TV Output: Type = PAL, Video = CVBS, RF Channel = 63
Reported firmware version: TF-NPT 5.13.65T dated Oct 10 2009
Base firmware version: 5.13.65

Running TAPS:
 Slot 0: DescriptionExtender 2.1  :  Provides long TAP EPG descriptions
 Slot 1: MeiSearch 1.30  :  Provides EPG search functionality.
 Slot 2: EPG Clean V1.01 Dev Version  :  Renames selected items in EPG
 Slot 3: PruneEPG 1.0  :  Program to remove unnecessary entries from the EIT table
 Slot 4: EPGnavigator v5.1c  :  EPGnavigator v5.1c - English
 Slot 5: MyInfo B5.6  :  Displays & records Toppy basic info
 Slots 6 - 15 not used

Installed patch list:-  Bf Bq Ce Ck Cw Cy Ec Ee Ef Ep Er Es F Gm H He Kt Mh Nf Ot P Pc R Ra Rh Rp Rs S Sd Sr St T2 Td Tf Tp Ts Vr Xp Xw
Firmware 5.13.65T 14/4/2009  modified thus: -Ab-Sy-Te+Cw+Ot+Td
Patch Decode Links - Will explain your patches:
 5.13.65T 14/4/2009 :- http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html?p=BfBqCeCkCwCyEcEeEfEpErEsFGmHHeKtMhNfOtPPcRRaRhRpRsSSdSrStT2TdTfTpTsVrXpXw
 Missing patches:- http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html?p=AbSyTe
 Extra patches:- http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html?p=CwOtTd

Time Mode set to Auto
Time Offset set to Auto

Found 46 TV channels and 12 Radio channels
Found duplicate channel name: ¨BBC Red Button¨ (LCNs 200 & 250)
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 39 are: 18, 19, 25, 31, 47, 73, 79, 
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 42 are: 10, 20, 21, 27, 30, 34, 37, 44, 54, 59, 70, 92, 
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 43 are: 1, 2, 9, 200, 231, 232, 250, 601, 700, 701, 702, 703, 704, 705, 706, 707, 708, 710, 719, 722, 
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 45 are: 11, 12, 29, 32, 38, 46, 48, 72, 233, 
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 46 are: 3, 4, 5, 6, 13, 14, 15, 24, 28, 33, 

Interactive Off
Timeshift On

Memory - Free: 14 MB,  Available: 14 MB
Disk - Total: 149 GB, Free: 123 GB

58 recordings (23 GB) + 0 deleted (0 GB) in 5 folders (+ 0 empty folders)

Time since boot: 0:16:56 (d:h:m)
          
Toppy Taps: http://toppy.signal11.org.uk

TF5800, IA On, TS On, F/W: 5.13.65T 14/4/2009 -AbCkEeEfEpHeKtRaRhRsSdStSyTeTfTpTsVr+Pf
TAPs: DescriptionExtender 2.1; MeiSearch 1.30; EPG Clean V1.01 Dev Version; EPGnavigator v5.1c; MyInfo B5.6;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 17/1/15
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

@MikB
That shows you have a duplicate channel name (on 200 and 250).

Having said that, you are unlikely to record on this name so it probably won't casue any issues.

Geoff
TopManager program
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPePfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; MHEG On/Off A3; QuickJump 1.72; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; WSSkiller V2.12d; MyInfo B5.6; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6-1;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 3/5/21
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