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cladder58
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Post by cladder58 »

can you swap 5800 hard drive in to 5810 pvr with all recordings etc left on
ccs
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Post by ccs »

Yes

If you have any taps which update the firmware (eg fwload, maybe), then that might cause issues, although it's unlkely.

Boot tapless (hold down the zero key while booting) the first time, and then have a look in autostart and move them out if there are any.
TF5810, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -FmXl+CtEzIScVdZ
TAPs: EIT Sub v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; Extend v1.7; MyStuff 6.6;
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

I don't believe that there are any issues in doing this.

You don't really need to worry about the firmware as the 5810 is already loaded and FwLoad will choose the correct firmware when/if you have to run it.

One issue might be if you have loaded any extra 5810 specific patches on to the 5810 disk (excluding those loaded by the MyStuff Installer). If you have done this then you will either download them again from R2-D2's patch kit or copy the files between the disks (old disk => pc =>5800 disk). These patches will then be position should FwLoad need to be run.
Note: I suspect you haven't loaded any extra patches (but can't tell because you don't have a proper signature).

So after swapping the disk, I suggest you run TopManager and use the Tools| Update Forum Profile option. - having a proper signature helps others know what you have on the toppy. It would probably also help to post the MyInfo LOg so that we can see the full config.

Geoff
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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPePfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; MHEG On/Off A3; QuickJump 1.72; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; WSSkiller V2.12d; MyInfo B5.6; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6-1;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 3/5/21
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Post by cladder58 »

i open a new account, computer went down just tried to do profile
TF5810, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; PruneEPG 1.0;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 27/7/20
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

@cladder58

Your post is very brief and doesn't provide any information to anyone trying to help you.

However, your signature date shows that you managed to create it with TM.
It also shows that you are missing my PruneEPG tap (essential with all the channels that are now available).

You should use the TM| Tools| Install Files| PruneEPG option to install it.
If TM tells you that updates are available FvTxData.tsv and/or Freeview.dat then you should also update these.

Having updated the system, reboot the toppy and generate a new signature.

You should also post the full MyInfo Log (TM Display MyInfo Log, right click the output with the mouse and "Select All", right click again and "Copy", reply to this thread and right click "Paste".

This will show what you currently have on the 5800.

Then connect the 5810 to the pc and post it's MyInfo Log (so a comparison can be made between the two systems).

Please provide all the requested info to avoid us guessing what you have.

Geoff
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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPePfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; MHEG On/Off A3; QuickJump 1.72; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; WSSkiller V2.12d; MyInfo B5.6; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6-1;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 3/5/21
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Post by cladder58 »

MyInfo B5.6 Logging settings etc on: 27/7/2020 at 11:31

Waiting for other TAPs to load and settle

Ini file found
Starting to record data 60 seconds from boot

System ID: 458
TV Output: Type = Auto, Video = RGB, RF Channel = 36
Reported firmware version: TF-NPT 5.13.65T dated Oct 10 2009
Base firmware version: 5.13.65

Running TAPS:
Slot 0: PcControl B1.4 : Toppy control from PC
Slot 1: EPG2MEI v0.96 : Dumps the EPG data to disk as EPG.mei, with changes since last time in EPG_diff.mei
Slot 2: MyStuff 6.6 : UI Replacement
Slot 3: Font Manager 1.0d : Manage TAP Fonts
Slot 4: Extend v1.7 : Uses the Accurate Recording info to extend recordings (safely)
Slot 5: SecCache (UK) v0.4 : Optimal (UK) section caching to reduce the load on the Toppy
Slot 6: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6 : Provides faster, simpler and more robust EIT data collection, except when playing games
Slot 7: MHEG On/Off A3 : MHEG control
Slot 8: MyInfo B5.6 : Displays & records Toppy basic info
Slot 9: PruneEPG 1.0 : Program to remove unnecessary entries from the EIT table
Slots 10 - 15 not used


Installed patch list:- Ab Bf Bq Ce Ck Cp Cw Cy De Ec Ee Ef Ep Er Es F Fm Gm H He Kt Mh Nf Ot P Pc R Ra Re Rh Rp Rs S Sd Sl Sr St T2 Td Te Tf Tp Ts Vr Xp Xw Xl
Firmware MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 modified thus:
Patch Decode Link - Will explain your patches:
http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html ... TsVrXpXwXl

Time Mode set to Auto
Time Offset set to Auto

Found 63 TV channels and 0 Radio channels
No channel problems detected
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 21 are: 12, 20, 21, 23, 26, 27, 30, 31, 34, 40, 44, 49, 54, 58, 59, 63, 66, 70, 77, 80, 203,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 24 are: 11, 17, 19, 29, 38, 45, 46, 47, 57, 75, 76, 88, 233,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 25 are: 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 13, 14, 15, 18, 24, 28, 33,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 27 are: 25, 32, 37, 39, 42, 67, 79, 81, 91, 206, 235,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 28 are: 1, 2, 9, 201, 202, 231,

Interactive Off
Timeshift On

Memory - Free: 13 MB, Available: 11 MB
Disk - Total: 466 GB, Free: 406 GB

9 recordings (9 GB) + 36 deleted (34 GB) in 1 folders (+ 0 empty folders)

Time since boot: 0:0:1 (d:h:m)

Suggested signature for Toppy forum - copy following lines to signature block at http://forum.toppy.org.uk/forum/profile ... ditprofile
TF5800t, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; PruneEPG 1.0;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 27/7/20

i did bite the bullet and changed hard drives. It seems to work the only proplem was the timers crossed over from each pvr so hd to go thru delete the ones from other pvr
the 5810 1080 picture quality not very good so use 720 fast forward icon is different than the 5800 its just what you are used too.
are there any other taps i should put on i still think these are one of the better pvrs thanks
TF5810, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; PruneEPG 1.0;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 27/7/20
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

That all looks fine.

I had wanted to see the 5810 MyInfo Log using it's original disk but as you have already swapped the disks, don't bother swapping them back again

While there are other taps, I don't think you need them (unless you find there is something you can't do).


Geoff
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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPePfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; MHEG On/Off A3; QuickJump 1.72; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; WSSkiller V2.12d; MyInfo B5.6; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6-1;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 3/5/21
cladder58
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Post by cladder58 »

thanks i will not be swaping them back the 5810 was the original hard drive when it plays up i change it
TF5810, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; PruneEPG 1.0;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 27/7/20
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