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YorkshireJumbo
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Post by YorkshireJumbo »

Thanks Geoff. I've had a look at the folders and there's nothing there. I assume that they and the recording won't cause any problems if I delete them.
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

yes, just delete them
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wjohnm
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Post by wjohnm »

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File System Analysis
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Generated by  fsCheck 1.5  on  24/05/2020 09:43


VERDICT: The file system appears  GOOD

  Number of folders = 10
  Number of files   = 75
  DataFiles summary = 21 recordings  ( folders: 0, other: 2 )
  Capacity          = 298 GB  (291 GB free)

  No issues found

  /DataFiles/__temprec__.ts
    >>> File currently being modified by Time Shifting (you can ignore this).

DISK GEOMETRY
-------------
  Total Sectors       = 625142448  (298 GB)
  Number of Clusters  = 127892
  Sectors Per Cluster = 4888
  Sectors used by FAT = 750

DISK USAGE
----------
  Number of folders   = 10
  Number of files     = 75
  Capacity            = 298 GB
  Free space in FAT   = 291 GB  (124898 clusters)
  Computed free space = 291 GB  (124898 clusters)

SMART DATA
----------
  HDDModel:  WDC WD3200AVVS-63L2B0
  Firmware:  01.03A01
  HDDSerial: WD-WCAV1A884098
  AAM:       Supported  (Mode 4/4: Silent)
  APM:       Not supported
  Smart:     Enabled, AutoSave On, Tests passed

  Attr  Description                Value Worst  Thr        Raw  Flags
  0x01  Raw Read Error Rate          200   200   51          0  0x2f wpr_os
  0x03  Spin Up Time                 157   157   21       3108  0x27 wp__os
  0x04  Start/Stop Count             100   100   ..         15  0x32 ___cos
  0x05  Reallocated Sector Count     200   200  140          0  0x33 w__cos
  0x07  Seek Error Rate              200   200   ..          0  0x2e _pr_os
  0x09  Power On Hours Count         100   100   ..         17  0x32 ___cos
  0x0a  Spin Retry Count             100   253   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0b  Calibration Retry Count      100   253   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0c  Power Cycle Count            100   100   ..         13  0x32 ___cos
  0xc0  Power-Off Retract Count      200   200   ..          3  0x32 ___cos
  0xc1  Load Cycle Count             200   200   ..         15  0x32 ___cos
  0xc2  Device Temperature            94    91   ..         49  0x22 ____os
  0xc4  Reallocated Event Count      200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc5  Current Pending Sector       200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc6  Uncorrectable Sector Count   100   253   ..          0  0x30 ___c_s
  0xc7  UDMA CRC Error Count         200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc8  Write Error Rate             200   200   ..          0  0x08 __r___

An interpretation of the SMART data:
------------------------------------
        Acronis Health Indicator = 100 %

PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
----------------------
  Dynamic Memory Avail= 13839 KB
  Amount Used         =   187 KB
  - for Analysis      =    36 KB
  - for Display       =   151 KB
  Time Taken          =   820 ms

*** END OF REPORT ***
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

@wjohnm

That disk looks fine - you just don't have the old recordings on it.

Also your signature looks very "bare". There are several patches and taps that you should be running (especially my PruneEPG tap).

I suggest you run GCBMyStuffInstaller (from my web site) and choose option 1 (this will load MyStuff and all the other bits you require). MyStuff really transforms the toppy into what it should have been. Should you really not like it, you can disable it by renaming \ProgramFiles\Auto Start\MyStuff.tap to .pat (or deleting it)

To get your old recordings on the new disk, reinstall the old disk and use Antares to copy everything in DataFiles to your pc (just tick the directory to copy all it's contents). Then reinstall the new disk and reverse the operation.
Alternatively, if you can connect the old disk to the pc, do so and use TopfHDRW to copy the files to the pc (this would be quicker). You could then attach the new disk to the pc and use TopfHDRW to copy them across (I believe TopfHDRW can copy directly from disk to disk if you can attach both toppy disks to the pc but I'm assuming you can attach at most one).

If you want to post your MyInfo log or ask other questions then please do so in a different thread (otherwise this thread gets very long with non "fsCheck" material)

Cheers
Geoff
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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; MHEG On/Off A3; QuickJump 1.72; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; WSSkiller V2.12d; MyInfo B5.6; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6-1;
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wjohnm
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Post by wjohnm »

Thanks Geoff,
Yes I ran this before copying all the recordings, it is in progress now, 22hrs which looks good compared to the 2-3 days it took to back them up. I realised I had to turn off laptop power saving sleep.
Will try your suggestions when all done, I had lived with the minimal taps you see there for 15 years. :roll:
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

There were a lot fewer channels in those days

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; MHEG On/Off A3; QuickJump 1.72; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; WSSkiller V2.12d; MyInfo B5.6; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6-1;
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Post by fhjones »

Hi Geoff
Attached is my FsCheck Report.

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File System Analysis
--------------------
Generated by  fsCheck 1.5  on  12/01/2021 12:11


VERDICT: The file system appears  GOOD

  Number of folders = 26
  Number of files   = 269
  DataFiles summary = 40 recordings  ( folders: 8, other: 1 )
  Capacity          = 932 GB  (880 GB free)

  No issues found

DISK GEOMETRY
-------------
  Total Sectors       = 1953525168  (932 GB)
  Number of Clusters  = 129887
  Sectors Per Cluster = 15040
  Sectors used by FAT = 762

DISK USAGE
----------
  Number of folders   = 26
  Number of files     = 269
  Capacity            = 932 GB
  Free space in FAT   = 880 GB  (122638 clusters)
  Computed free space = 880 GB  (122638 clusters)

SMART DATA
----------
  HDDModel:  WDC WD10EARS-00MVWB0
  Firmware:  51.0AB51
  HDDSerial: WD-WMAZA2487567
  AAM:       Supported  (Mode 1/4: Off)
  APM:       Not supported
  Smart:     Enabled, AutoSave On, Tests passed

  Attr  Description                Value Worst  Thr        Raw  Flags
  0x01  Raw Read Error Rate          200   200   51          0  0x2f wpr_os
  0x03  Spin Up Time                 244   169   21       2800  0x27 wp__os
  0x04  Start/Stop Count              96    96   ..       4075  0x32 ___cos
  0x05  Reallocated Sector Count     200   200  140          0  0x33 w__cos
  0x07  Seek Error Rate              200   200   ..          0  0x2e _pr_os
  0x09  Power On Hours Count          98    98   ..       1810  0x32 ___cos
  0x0a  Spin Retry Count             100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0b  Calibration Retry Count      100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0c  Power Cycle Count             98    98   ..       2641  0x32 ___cos
  0xc0  Power-Off Retract Count      200   200   ..         31  0x32 ___cos
  0xc1  Load Cycle Count             196   196   ..      12603  0x32 ___cos
  0xc2  Device Temperature           124   101   ..         26  0x22 ____os
  0xc4  Reallocated Event Count      200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc5  Current Pending Sector       200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc6  Uncorrectable Sector Count   200   200   ..          0  0x30 ___c_s
  0xc7  UDMA CRC Error Count         200   198   ..        392  0x32 ___cos
  0xc8  Write Error Rate             200   200   ..          0  0x08 __r___

An interpretation of the SMART data:
------------------------------------
        Acronis Health Indicator = 100 %

PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
----------------------
  Dynamic Memory Avail=  9254 KB
  Amount Used         =   219 KB
  - for Analysis      =    68 KB
  - for Display       =   151 KB
  Time Taken          =  1450 ms

*** END OF REPORT ***
TF5810, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 +UUu
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; PruneEPG 1.0; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7;
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Post by fhjones »

Just to add Geoff -

The UDMA error count of 392 was acquired when I had a Topfield PATA/SATA adapter installed. A while ago I replaced it with an adapter supplied by Andyfras and the count hasn't gone up since.

Could the disk corruption date back to the time when the Topfield adapter was installed?
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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; PruneEPG 1.0; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7;
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

@fhjones

The log shows that the disk is physically ok and that the file system is not corrupted (I wondered if there was a circular FAT reference which was causing MS to loop round indefinitely but that is apparently not the case).


Geoff
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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPePfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; MHEG On/Off A3; QuickJump 1.72; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; WSSkiller V2.12d; MyInfo B5.6; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6-1;
Sig generated by EMJB's MyInfo.tap on 3/5/21
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