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Post by Geoff Bacon »

Sounds like your problem is the aerial - they have really changed since yours was installed. It is also important to have one that matches the signals broadcast by your transmitter.

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Post by YorkshireJumbo »

Thanks Geoff. I realise that they've changed, but we've not had an issue until the latest retune, despite using channels in the same general area of the spectrum.

It was s strange coincidence that it happened on the day of the retune when we also had a planned power outage. But I am drawn to the aerial or its connections as the root of the problem, as it's affecting all my devices, and even the channels on 100% on the other devices are now showing the occasional glitch. Do aerials degrade over time? Or is it more likely the aerial cables and connections that are deteriorating?
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Post by ccs »

..... I never thought moisture getting into the cabling would ever be a real problem until a signal booster I use as a powered splitter failed, and when I tipped it upside down water poured out of it. My advice would be to replace the aerial and cabling.
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Post by YorkshireJumbo »

Cheers - our aerial is inside the roof (with "line of sight" to the mast), so I hope moisture won't be an issue :shock:
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Post by YorkshireJumbo »

We've not managed to get anyone out to look at our aerial, and the lower MUXes (below 39) are still quite flakey. I'm usually managing to avoid recording on them, but the odd one sneaks through. Last night it was recording on one of the dodgy channels as I'd not reviewed the recordings for the day. The Toppy crashed while I was playing back something else, and restarted with the menu showing and not allowing access. I thought the disk had been corrupted and I'd have to rebuild it from the backups. But it had 'just' lost all its channels and a quick rescan via TM had it back up and running in 10 minutes or so :D

So thanks again to Geoff B for his program :mrgreen:
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Post by ccs »

ccs wrote:FWIW, I've had Channel Organiser in autostart for many years, so lost channels is avoided if it ever happens due to poor reception, say.

You need to use CO first to set up your defaults and deleted channels etc, then it does it all for you for ever more.
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Post by YorkshireJumbo »

Good point. First time this has happened in 15-odd years though
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Post by YorkshireJumbo »

Out of interest, what happens with CO in Autostart? Does it need someone to press exit each time, or does it close automatically?
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Post by ccs »

It just checks if a retune is needed, does one if necessary, and the toppy continues as normal.

I put it into autostart on 3 toppies probably 7 years ago, and never needed to do anything else.

It keeps a log of any retunes.
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Post by YorkshireJumbo »

Thanks - I've only ever used it interactively.
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