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aTOPPYuser
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Post by aTOPPYuser »

The UsbAcceleratorV1_0 tap works great, i am using a 5m passive usb cable

NO TAP USED
505.500 kb file 10.13 turbo off 0.83 mb/s
505.500 kb file 4.13 turbo on 2.00 mb/s

TAP USED
505.500 kb file 6.48 turbo off 1.13 mb/s
505.500 kb file 2.23 turbo on 3.53 mb's

Many thanks
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Post by pol098 »

Is the TAP version of the USB_upload patch available anywhere? When I tried to download from a link in a previous page
http://www.r2-d2.sitesled.com/Toppy/usb_upload.zip
I got redirected twice, ending up at the totally irrelevant www.zwinky.com.

Thanks
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Post by pol098 »

[quote="jumbo"]Should be in http://www.toppy.org.uk/~r2-d2/PatchPackV2.zip[/quote]

Indeed so, many thanks. For the record, as the links in earlier sections aren't working (now, at least):
Both the patches (.tfp) and the TAPs (.tap) for [U]UsbAccelerator and [Uu]usb_upload, together with a great many others, are in the http://www.toppy.org.uk/~r2-d2/PatchPackV2.zip collection.
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Post by jumbo »

The poor guy has had his paws in so many pies that he can't possibly keep track of all his past links :roll: If you want the latest for all things Toppy then try http://www.tapworld.net/ first!
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Post by jof »

DeadBeef wrote:I heard about other users having problems with random access to Toppy files. It looks like a problem with the version of the DLL file I patched (1.0.0.6). It does not seem to properly support random access to Toppy files. So I also patched the version 1.0.0.5 of TfDll.dll. Would please try this one?
Hi, that link to TfDll v1.0.0.5 patched doesn't work anymore.
Can anyone provide a new link please?

My Altair (the latest I can find) comes with v1.0.0.5. Where did the v1.0.0.6 come from originally?
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Post by RedandBlueArmy »

Little confused after reading through all this thread.
Could someone please confirm/advise on the following to see if I have fully understood this. I wish to send and recieve data between PC and 5810 faster.

1. Am I correct in thinking there are two ways to do this. Either A) installing the two patches or as an alternative B) installing the two TAPS?

2. Assuming I install the two patches, using FWLoad is there anything else I have to install/change ............ I think I read somewhere about changing the .dll file ....if so where do I put that?

3. Assuming I do not install the patches and install the two taps is there anything else I have to install/change ............ likewise I think I read somewhere about changing the .dll file ....if so where do I put that?
As I will be transferring files from my 5800 to my PC WITHOUT first putting my TV on do these Taps go in the AutoStart

4 Roughly can anyone confirm what sort of transfer speeds I can expect (in simple english please :lol: ) e.g Turbo 5810 - PC 2GB in approx 12 mins

I hope the above makes sense and apart from helping e out I am sure in the future it will make it clearer for others

TIA
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Post by alan_m »

RedandBlueArmy wrote:Am I correct in thinking there are two ways to do this. Either A) installing the two patches
Correct
Assuming I install the two patches, using FWLoad is there anything else I have to install/change ............ I think I read somewhere about changing the .dll file ....if so where do I put that?
Assuming Windows 32 bit, and assuming Altair has been already installed and working, it replaces a .dll of the same name on your PC, possibly somewhere like c:\windows or c:\windows\system32

The replacement DLL can be found in R2D2's patch pack (carefully hidden in one of the folders) from the links given in previous posts.

After unzipping look in
Performance/TAPS/usb_accelerator/ ----- TfDll.dll
Assuming I do not install the patches and install the two taps is there anything else I have to install/change ............ likewise I think I read somewhere about changing the .dll file
Same answer as for the patches - the dll replaces one of the same name on your computer.
As I will be transferring files from my 5800 to my PC WITHOUT first putting my TV on do these Taps go in the AutoStart
Yes
4 Roughly can anyone confirm what sort of transfer speeds I can expect (in simple english please :lol: ) e.g Turbo 5810 - PC 2GB in approx 12 mins
Taking 12 minutes as your reference time, the download with the USB patches may be of the order 8 minutes.
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Post by RedandBlueArmy »

Many Many Thanks ..............

Off to play now.

Thanks for your time
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Post by RedandBlueArmy »

Could not find the file tfdll.dll on my Windows 7 (32 bit) Looked in where you suggested.

Any case I have copied and pasted it now from R2D2's patch pack into windows\system32

I have also put the two Taps into AutoStart and rebooted PVR

When using Altair to transfer from PC to PVR 5810 just quickly looking it would appear about a 40% improvement; however my problem seems to be when trying to transfer using Altair, from PVR to PC it just locks up (hangs on 1%), I cannot even copy MyInfoLog.txt across.

To overcome this I have to reboot PVR and then restart Altair

I guess the problem might be this tfdll.dll file

EDIT:

Found the tfdll.dll in ProgramFiles>Topfield
renamed it to tfdll.dll.old
and now moved it (tfdll.dll) from System32 to ProgramFiles>Topfield


Have just very quickly tested it and Altair now works ..................will test speed later.

Once again thank you
Last edited by RedandBlueArmy on Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by alan_m »

Just remember that after replacing the DLL (copy/paste) you will/may have to re-boot your computer for it to be picked up.
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

If you use my TopManager program, you can use the Tools\Display Exes and DLLs option. This will highlight any DLLs on your pc that do not support the accelerator patches/taps. Position to the offending dll, right click and select the replace dll option,

You can do this without using the patches or taps. I would recommend the patches as they do not consume tap slots.

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Post by Geoff Bacon »

Don't forget that when turbo is enabled, you can't use the remote and it prevents recordings from starting - there may also be other gotchas!

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Post by RedandBlueArmy »

To Geoff and Alan

Please see my Edit above.

Thanks for your advice, if the speeds improve greatly I will remove the taps and install the patches

thanks for your time.
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Post by Geoff Bacon »

Just noticed that you copied the dll into Windows\System32.
This was not necessary, you only need it in the folder containing Altair.
Suggest you remove from Windows\System32

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