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Post by juwlz »

Hodman wrote:I know I have the 'recommended' firmware installed (it was the first thing I did when I received it).
However, I'm not sure about the patch you mentioned.
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Post by Hodman »

Many thanks R2-D2 & Juwlz.

Once I applied the Sf patch, switching to standby now turns off the fan and the HDD.
I'm sure the HDD was always turning whilst in standby prior to applying the patch.

The only thing left now is to find the right value resistor to reduce the fan speed (it's a little too noisy at full speed).

Thanks again.
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Post by jumbo »

Hodman wrote:The only thing left now is to find the right value resistor to reduce the fan speed (it's a little too noisy at full speed).

Thanks again.
Hodman
It's not just the value of the resistor but the "wattage" as well as it'd get very HOT when used to step down the voltage. So get a chunky one; 2W or more. You can also get a variable resistor or you can even make a temperature controlled one for a couple of pounds (I did and posted the details somewhere here including parts and circuit diagram). You can also buy a proper PC fan controller (Akasa have one for around a tenner). Finally, you can use the Toppy PSU/Molex itself directly for a 7V supply.
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Post by Hodman »

Thanks Jumbo, all excellent points.
I do have a selection of chunky resistors to test.

I will search for your post on temperature controlled resistor and see what's available in terms of PC fan controllers.

Feeding the fan from the 7v supply could be the answer and I will try it out.

I aim to complete this final part of the project this coming weekend and will post the result.

Thanks again
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Post by andy12c »

right as my 5810 is now out of warranty, im about to install a fan.

couple of questions.

is it worth buying a hdd twin fan part if so will it fit under the hdd ?

if i opt for a single fan as pix, what size and rating to i use?

cheers
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Post by andyfras »

I have given the dimensions and working voltages of the fans I used. If you get a 12V fan, try to run it on 5V or 7V (connect between 12V and 5V) otherwise it may be too noisy. The important thing is to move air about inside the box, it doesn't need to blow too hard.

I suggest that you use the HDDInfo tap to do before and after temperature measurements, so that you can judge the effectiveness of your fan.
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Another way of cooling HDD in TF5800

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Above shows my way of keeping HDD cool in TF5800, home made cooling finns
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Post by jumbo »

1234enough wrote:Above shows my way of keeping HDD cool in TF5800, home made cooling finns
What good is that? It might make the HDD itself cooler but the heat still dissipates inside the box. You need to extract/expell the heat away from the electronics and that needs a fan.
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Cooling TF5800

Post by 1234enough »

Having upgraded to 1.5tb hdd, thought i would fit a fan.Having seen other fitments of fans to top of case which do the job, I followed layout of varius standard electronic manufacturers and fitted a 60x60x15 (12v 0.48w) on the back.This keeps toppy looking no different from all but the rear view ( No fixings on top case).
To aid correct air flow ventilation slots to back LH side and top are blocked off +between back of case to hdd, thus drawing air from hdd / PSU area.
Fan was wired straight into hdd supply 5v this was ok and with no noise but the airflow seemed to be excessive, so now fitted potentiometer set so fan go's as slow as possible.
Only drawback is rear case section needs to be removed to allow for near on 60mm hole to be stitch drilled though it.
Case feels cold all over, so job done.
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Images of fan from above postImageImageImage
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Post by 1234enough »

images for above postImageImage
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Post by andyfras »

Pictures would have been better at a quarter of the size.
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Post by Andy K »

amazing how many different ways of doing it.

Only concern for anyone with kids doing this, is that if they poke a metal object through that fan (e.g when the toppy is in standby) they are going to get a shock off that heatsink
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Post by jumbo »

Andy K wrote:amazing how many different ways of doing it.

Only concern for anyone with kids doing this, is that if they poke a metal object through that fan (e.g when the toppy is in standby) they are going to get a shock off that heatsink
More amazing is how paranoid some people are! Liquid nitrogen would've been cheaper. Feel sorry for you friend.
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