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Nimbus
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:21 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Leicestershire. 7 miles from the Waltham transmitter...
When I play back recordings the description box only shows part of the description. Is this a fault with InfoViewer, DE or my load order? When watching live programs it's fine, and shows the full desctription.

Can anyone offer any help?

BTW, since I've switched to V1.5 and used a modified skin and channel icons, I think it looks fantastic. Very Happy

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TAPs in load order : Font Manager 1 | TF5000 Display v1.26 | Remote Extender 1.6 | Description Extender 2.23 | Info Viewer 1.7 | Media Manager 1.5 | mei2archive BETA 3.5 | QuickJump 1.64 | Goldfish 0.5 | Power Manager 2.0 | UK Auto Scheduler 0.73 | EPGnavigator 6.1 | WSSKiller 2.12d
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matt
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:07 pm Reply with quote
Forum moderator Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 2305 Location: St Ives, Cornwall Transmitter: Redruth
I think it's a problem with the Toppy API.

I seem to remember that TAPs only have access to the short description through the standard API?

Nimbus, can you email me v1.5? Thanks.

I can only download 1.6 and am having problems with it.

matt

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PVR: TF5800, MyStuff recommended firmware, new PSU, 250GB Spinpoint HDD, Zalman ZM-OP1 fan TAPs: QuickJump 1.72, MyStuff 6.4, EPG2MEI 0.96, Extend 1.7, Bookmark 3, UK Auto Scheduler 0.73, SecCache 0.4, EIT Sub 0.6, SDS 1.3, TAP Commander 1.34, Font Manager 1.0d. Others: HDFW 2.3a, Channel Manager 5.1, FastScanGUI, MyInfo TV: Philips 37PFL9603D
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R2-D2
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:24 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 12148
Nimbus wrote:
When I play back recordings the description box only shows part of the description. Is this a fault with InfoViewer, DE or my load order?
It's the fault of the TAP API, which only provides a limited part of the programme ("short") description (there is also an "extended" description which isn't actually used by Freeview). There are solutions to this (SimonC's Description Extender TAP, and the DescExt patch) but they (necessarily) require the TAP to know about the solution and support it.
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Nimbus
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:49 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Leicestershire. 7 miles from the Waltham transmitter...
R2-D2 wrote:
It's the fault of the TAP API, which only provides a limited part of the programme ("short") description (there is also an "extended" description which isn't actually used by Freeview). There are solutions to this (SimonC's Description Extender TAP, and the DescExt patch) but they (necessarily) require the TAP to know about the solution and support it.


I already use Description Extender which allows me to see the full description for live programs in InfoViewer. It's only recorded programs where it does not. So I assume InfoViewer "knows" about it, but for some reason it's not working for recorded programs.

Thanks

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5.13.65 Current Patches
WD20EARS 2TB - Tubosat SATA-IDE converter

TAPs in load order : Font Manager 1 | TF5000 Display v1.26 | Remote Extender 1.6 | Description Extender 2.23 | Info Viewer 1.7 | Media Manager 1.5 | mei2archive BETA 3.5 | QuickJump 1.64 | Goldfish 0.5 | Power Manager 2.0 | UK Auto Scheduler 0.73 | EPGnavigator 6.1 | WSSKiller 2.12d
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R2-D2
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:00 pm Reply with quote
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Nimbus wrote:
I already use Description Extender which allows me to see the full description for live programs in InfoViewer. It's only recorded programs where it does not.
Ah, right. It's the same deal here, although slightly worse because I don't think there's an API call to get the extended description from a recording.
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Nimbus
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:00 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Leicestershire. 7 miles from the Waltham transmitter...
matt wrote:
I think it's a problem with the Toppy API.

I seem to remember that TAPs only have access to the short description through the standard API?

Nimbus, can you email me v1.5? Thanks.

I can only download 1.6 and am having problems with it.

matt


E-mail sent.

Cheers

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WD20EARS 2TB - Tubosat SATA-IDE converter

TAPs in load order : Font Manager 1 | TF5000 Display v1.26 | Remote Extender 1.6 | Description Extender 2.23 | Info Viewer 1.7 | Media Manager 1.5 | mei2archive BETA 3.5 | QuickJump 1.64 | Goldfish 0.5 | Power Manager 2.0 | UK Auto Scheduler 0.73 | EPGnavigator 6.1 | WSSKiller 2.12d
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Toni
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:03 pm Reply with quote
Regular contributor Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 40 Location: Finland
TAP API provides only the short description but the long one is displayed for example in the file list. It has been on my TODO -list for a long time to read the description from the file itself, but I have just been too lazy Very Happy
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Toni
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:24 pm Reply with quote
Regular contributor Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 40 Location: Finland
If you haven't yet noticed, there is a new version available at the homepage and in tapworld.

This version is not so compatible with remote extender, as the previous one was, sorry for that, but now the event handling is not such a big mess Smile

To get this working with the Remote Extender, you most likely have to define all needed keys manually to the .ini file. I can't really help with that because I'm not able to test it.
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silver
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:04 am Reply with quote
Regular contributor Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 59 Location: London
A nice TAP. Couple of feature requests:

- Can you use the same font package that EPGnavigator does? It looks rather lush.
- Can you make the colour of a programme title which is starting in the next 10 minutes different? Whilst flicking through the channels, it would be good to easily spot if something is going to start soon.

Keep up the good work!
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Nimbus
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:46 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Leicestershire. 7 miles from the Waltham transmitter...
In case anyone's missed it, I notice the v1.7 is now available which add support for Font Manager.

I have noticed some problems with this version though.

1) The exit key no longed exits Info Viewer from the screen. I have to wait for it to time out, or press "i" again to cycle through the info box > description screen > off

2) When using the volume + / - it no longer shows the volume on the screen, though the volume does change. It does display when using the left and right buttons but we realy use these for volume control.

I used my v1.5 ini file and copied over the new entries for this version (relating to Quick Change).

While the support of fonts is a plus, I'm going to revert back to v1.5 until the reaosns for these issues can be resolved.

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WD20EARS 2TB - Tubosat SATA-IDE converter

TAPs in load order : Font Manager 1 | TF5000 Display v1.26 | Remote Extender 1.6 | Description Extender 2.23 | Info Viewer 1.7 | Media Manager 1.5 | mei2archive BETA 3.5 | QuickJump 1.64 | Goldfish 0.5 | Power Manager 2.0 | UK Auto Scheduler 0.73 | EPGnavigator 6.1 | WSSKiller 2.12d
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DefineByte
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:14 am Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 221 Location: UK
Nimbus wrote:
1) The exit key no longed exits Info Viewer from the screen. I have to wait for it to time out, or press "i" again to cycle through the info box > description screen > off

1.5 doesn't work with exit for me. I wonder what I've got setup wrong. Maybe a conflict with the Remote Extender TAP. Confused
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Nimbus
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:33 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Leicestershire. 7 miles from the Waltham transmitter...
Have you concidered using the RemoteExtender Patch instead? This is what I use and the Exit key works fine on v1.5. Below is my ini file that I use with v1.5 if it's any help..

Code:

#########################################
# OPTIONS                               #
#########################################

#Time to display info box when i button pressed (100 = 1 sec)
DISPLAY_TIME   1000

#Time to display info box after channel change
DISPLAY_TIME2   600

#Time to display volume
DISPLAY_TIME3   200

#How often the screen is updated (200 = every 2 seconds)
UPDATE_INTERVAL   200

#How often the screen is updated right after channel change
UPDATE_INTERVAL2   50

#Is volume bar handled by Info Viewer (values 0/1)
HANDLE_VOLUME   1

#Display LCN (Logical Channel Number) instead of number of the channel (values 0/1)
DISPLAY_LCN   1

#Style how channel name / number / logo is displayed. Values:
#0: Channel number + name
#1: Channel name
#2: Logo and Channel number + name
#3: Logo and Channel name
#4: Logo or Channel number + name
#5: Logo or Channel name
CHANNEL_LOGOS   2

#Is filename or event displayed in playback? (0 = event, 1 = filename)
#When this is set to 0 then the event name and description is displayed in the infobox
#When this is set to 1 then the filename will be displayed in the infobox (and event information only in the detailed info window)
FILENAME_IN_PLAYBACK   1

#Key to open Info Viewer
INFO_KEY   0x10014

#Key to select next program
NEXT_KEY   0x10043

#Key to select previous program
PREV_KEY   0x10041

#Key to change channel displayed in infobox forwards
NEXT_CHAN_KEY   0x1003a

#Key to change channel displayed in infobox backwards
PREV_CHAN_KEY   0x10038

#Key to terminate the tap (completely)
TERMINATE_KEY   0x1003b

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5.13.65 Current Patches
WD20EARS 2TB - Tubosat SATA-IDE converter

TAPs in load order : Font Manager 1 | TF5000 Display v1.26 | Remote Extender 1.6 | Description Extender 2.23 | Info Viewer 1.7 | Media Manager 1.5 | mei2archive BETA 3.5 | QuickJump 1.64 | Goldfish 0.5 | Power Manager 2.0 | UK Auto Scheduler 0.73 | EPGnavigator 6.1 | WSSKiller 2.12d
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DefineByte
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:58 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 221 Location: UK
I would use the patch but I'm not sure all my TAPs support it.

I guess I should give it a go as SimpleCharEditor doesn't seem to like the TAP either.
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silver
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:46 pm Reply with quote
Regular contributor Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 59 Location: London
I've installed 1.7 and although the infoviewer box appears when changing channels, pressing the "i" button does absolutely nothing.

I've installed the font manager too and that works, but I cannot coax anything out of the "i" button.

Any ideas?
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DefineByte
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:17 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 221 Location: UK
I've managed to get 1.7 fully working with the Remote Extender patch. I guess it must be something funky with your config file like I had with 1.5. I'd post mine but I don't have access to my Toppy at the moment.

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