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Sebby
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:41 pm Reply with quote
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I have been concerned about the heat produced by my Toppy recently, and for a week or so, I've been planning the addition of a fan. Today, I got around to doing it. As I always tend to do (!), I've created a webpage with lots of information and pictures, so I need not say anything else here. Razz

http://www.sebby.me.uk/topfield/

I hope people find this of interest.

Comments welcome. Very Happy


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jumbo
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:14 pm Reply with quote
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I gather you are a "24" fan. Which ones have you got? You don't want to sell 'em, do you? Wink

Question: Have you set the fan to blow air into or extract air from the Toppy?
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Sebby
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:19 pm Reply with quote
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jumbo wrote:
I gather you are a "24" fan. Which ones have you got? You don't want to sell 'em, do you? Wink

Guilty. Razz

I have the series 1-4 boxset, and of course watched series 5 on Sky One. Very Happy

I was planning on selling it once I'd watched them all, but I never seem to have a complete set as people borrow. Rolling Eyes

jumbo wrote:
Question: Have you set the fan to blow into or extract air from the Toppy?

The fan is extracting air from the Toppy, blowing air upwards and out of the case.

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vroomfondle
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:11 pm Reply with quote
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I too fitted a fan. Its the same as the one shown in this picture
http://tonyspage.abock.de/topfieldpics/fan1.jpg

Its the ZM-OP1 Slim 80mm Fan, show on this page
http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/manufacturers/zalman

Easy to fit. Two of the existing slots in the cover can be used for mounting screws.
Mine is blowing out of box. Its connected to the +5v on the hdd supply connector. On this Zalman says speed is 1400 RPM and noise is 20dB
Very quiet and turns off when Toppy is in standby.

You can monitor the temp inside using HDDinfo's SMART tab.
Mine started at 28C (room temp) and rose to 35C.
Before it would get up to 50+C.

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jonb
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:32 pm Reply with quote
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Well done. I intend to do something similar after the warranty expires, so I'm obliged for this.
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Sebby
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:42 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks. Yep, my warranty expired 2 days ago. Wink

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bellandbottle
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:10 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for the info folks - just ordered up the Zalman Very Happy .

PS There are only 3 left in stock

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Sebby
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:52 pm Reply with quote
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Are you going for the 'soft mount' method of mounting it? I didn't use a Zalman personally, and if I decide to keep the fan where it is, there's no need for one as there's plenty of clearance. I just wonder whether a fan would be better on the left. I'd be interested to know, once your Zalman arrives, where there is enough clearance at the rear left of the box to mount the fan there.

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bellandbottle
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:39 pm Reply with quote
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I will make up my mind when I can see and touch it Very Happy , but I will report back on how it has gone.

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vroomfondle
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:27 pm Reply with quote
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Sebby wrote:
... I just wonder whether a fan would be better on the left. I'd be interested to know, once your Zalman arrives, where there is enough clearance at the rear left of the box to mount the fan there.

There isn't enough clearance on the LH side even for a Zalman.
The harddisk and the big heatsink at the back with the nasty voltages both have quite tight clearance with the lid.

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Sebby
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:48 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for letting me know. In that case, the only change I might make is to remove the in-line resistor (to up the fan speed). In all honestly, the fact that the fan switches off in standby means fan noise is not really an issue, and so I may get better results with it running at full speed.

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jumbo
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:38 pm Reply with quote
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Is an 80mm fan the largest that fits? Presumably a larger fan will have greater airflow (and possibly noise).


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Sebby
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:51 pm Reply with quote
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Well, the issue is the size of the vents. An 80mm fan fits perfectly at an angle. I guess you could get a 120mm fan to fit, but I doubt it would be any better as the vents are not large enough.

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vroomfondle
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:12 pm Reply with quote
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You could probably get a bigger fan on the RH side of the lid but as Sebby says the vents aren't really big enough.
A bigger fan would be quieter for the same total airflow.
I think the Zalman fan is now giving sufficient cooling.

As the HDD is the biggest generator of heat, things could be perhaps be improved a bit more by cutting a larger square hole in the HDD mounting plate. It does have small holes in it but not over the whole surface. like this:
http://tonyspage.abock.de/topfieldpics/ToppyCoolingFans3.jpg

NB It would be difficult to use the hdd cooling fans as that guy did because in our model cables run under the bracket

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AndyD
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:56 pm Reply with quote
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vroomfondle wrote:
As the HDD is the biggest generator of heat....


Is it ?
Going by the temps across the top of my 5800 most heat seems to come from the power circuitry on the left of the hard drive.
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