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Brava_210
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:14 pm Reply with quote
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i recorded dr who tonight but the audio track was a woman talking through the programme as if explaining it to a blind person,no way i could get it to play normal sound what was this all about...ie "the doctor now has a surprised look on his face"......

Subject change by Nigel to be more descriptive

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Brava_210
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:28 pm Reply with quote
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it is the voice of a woman -this is creepy,where did it come from

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nwhitfield
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:31 pm Reply with quote
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That's the audio description, for people with visual problems.

Try pressing Opt, select Sound Track, press OK, and try the different options in there.

Nigel.

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nwhitfield
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:37 pm Reply with quote
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For more information about Audio Description from the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/digital_tv/audio_description.shtml

Information from the RNIB, including downloadable receiver details:

http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_audiodescriptiononTV.hcsp#P16_1377

Schedules showing which Freeview programmes are described:

http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/schedule.php

The documentation from the RNIB doesn't say that audio description works on the Toppy, but you've either got that soundtrack selected, or there was a screw-up somewhere.

Nigel.

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nwhitfield
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:57 pm Reply with quote
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I've just checked my recording of Dr Who, and yes, I can access the audio described version, by choosing the second 'eng' option on the Soundtrack menu.

I'll move this to the programming area, as it's not really a bug.

I suspect you may have that soundtrack selected; you won't have noticed any difference until you get to an audio described programme, and as you can see from the links, there's not many of them about.

Change the setting back to AUTO and you should be fine.

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IanP
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 2:09 am Reply with quote
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I wonder if the Toppy hardware/software would be capable of mixing the main audio and description channels to meet the full AD receiver spec? The only option on the market currently is a Netgem i-player, and they charge a premium for the version with the AD firmware. It would certainly be another feather in the Toppy's cap if AD was added to the feature list.
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Brava_210
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:58 am Reply with quote
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i have tried all audio options,all i get is silence or the kind lady telling me the dr looks surprised.....
so it obviously didnt record the main audio

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gopherangel
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 3:03 pm Reply with quote
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nwhitfield wrote:

I'll move this to the programming area, as it's not really a bug.


Topfield failed to record main audio sound = bug in my book.
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nwhitfield
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 3:07 pm Reply with quote
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gopherangel wrote:
Topfield failed to record main audio sound = bug in my book.


Yes, now that it's clear that it didn't - which wasn't necessarily the case when I originally moved the topic; you can end up listening to the audio description only if you chose one of the other soundtracks.

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Stuart_Burns
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 3:07 am Reply with quote
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I certainly don't have that here - I notice on the BBC site it says it's only currently available on BBC One London. Presumably this will be rolled out to other regions eventually.
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Brava_210
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:44 pm Reply with quote
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Stuart_Burns wrote:
I certainly don't have that here - I notice on the BBC site it says it's only currently available on BBC One London. Presumably this will be rolled out to other regions eventually.


we get it on BBC and ITV in Bristol..

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Stuart_Burns
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 12:06 am Reply with quote
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I tried that again this week and it does seem to work but it doesn't work properly. I've come across this on digital satellite and the commentary os mixed in with the original programme sound. On Doctor Who, there is just the commentary with complete silence in between. I don't imagine it would be much use to someone who is visually impaired.
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jimscrivener
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:01 am Reply with quote
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I recorded the Doctor Who repeat last night (22/7/05) on BBC Three. On playback only the Audio description track is available. No alternative soundtrack.

This is my second day using the machine - and archiving Doctor Who repeats was a main reason for buying it. I am not very happy.

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jimscrivener
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:08 am Reply with quote
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Ah - I've just found the posting on the Forum's Bugs list.

So I have bought a product with a known major problem, eh?

I looked through many forums and reviews before deciding to buy but missed this. Yet it's such a big problem to make the machine completely unreliable and almost useless.

Ho hum.

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nwhitfield
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:30 am Reply with quote
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I would suggest that you check the aerial, and make sure that's all set up fine; we have a suspicious that that maybe related to this issue, though until I hear more from the engineers, I can't say exactly what they found.

Yes, it's an annoying problem - but as you can see in the associated bug thread, files can be fixed using Project X on the PC.

It's affecting by no means everyone, thankfully, and is top priority for fixing in the forthcoming update, which is due around the beginning of August.

Meanwhile, if you are completely stuck as far as Dr Who goes, I'm probably not the only person here who has a complete set of .rec files nestling on their hard drive now.

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