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macleesh
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Magpie
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:09 pm Reply with quote
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Same question here.  In my case I'm looking to replace a Daewoo (Setpal) that's on the fringe of Sutton Coldfield - solid on all the MUX except C.

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Darkmatter
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:28 am Reply with quote
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That?s an almost unanswerable question. Unfortunately, the only way to be sure, would be to ask Topfield for a minimum receive level, and for you to measure what you currently get at the TV.

Sorry, that?s not very helpful. The only thing I can suggest is to ask people to post comparisons with any other set top boxes they have.

Out of curiosity ? punch your post code in to the web link below ? what figures to you get in the columns ?Field dBuV/m?, ?Distance miles?, and ?Antenna suggestion?

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Magpie
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:56 am Reply with quote
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My Daewoo gives solid pictures with Wolfbane predicting "33 dBV/m, 30 miles, Amplified extra hi-gain".  (It's not an extra high gain on the roof.)

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macleesh
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:32 am Reply with quote
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The predicted receive level is 21dBuV/M,13 miles to TX. I have the suggested high gain aerial with mast head amp but can't be sure what level I am actually receiving. The Pioneer's signal strength indicator shows approx 2 thirds of full scale for strength with good quality.
According to Topfield the receive level range is -78 to -20 dBm which translates to 30.75-88.75 dBuV so on the face of it it's out of spec. However I obviously do have enough signal to keep the Pioneer happy and one would assume that Freeview receivers have improved over the years since the Pioneer was made, therefore I suspect the Toppy should be OK. I think I read somewhere in the early days of digital TV that you needed 40 something dBuV for reliable reception which is an indication I suppose of what the Pioneer would have required.
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rodneyfoy
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:39 am Reply with quote
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It doesn't seem any less sensitive than my Matsui DTR1 STB.

I'm getting a 70% signal and usually 100% quality with a small outdoor aerial placed on top of some shelves, and with a signal booster (a temporary measure until I can get our shared outdoor aerial sorted).  The picture is nearly always solid, although there are occasional sound dropouts.

The consensus on these forums, and my own feeling, seems to be that you need 100% quality for reliable recording with the Toppy. This could well be the same with other PVRs.

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Darkmatter
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:39 pm Reply with quote
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Macleesh: that?s an impressively low signal! Looks like you are on top of your aerial installation, so you may be fine. Bear in mind which every way you supply the second tuner, it?s always down more than 3dB.

Magpie: You?ve got room for improvement if things don?t turn out ok

I don?t think we?ve had anyone complain about not being able to recover a signal. I guess most people here are not first time DVB users.

To be honest, no one can look at the predicted figures and give an accurate assessment, as your local surroundings, and installation are primary factors. The best advice I can give is this: Talk it over with the shop you?re going to buy it from. Ask them for suggestions, and if they are willing to refund the purchase price, if things don?t turn out OK.

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macleesh
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:34 am Reply with quote
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Did a bit more research and found that the old Nokia OnDigital boxes had receive levels of 35 - 80 dBuV and having had one before my Pioneer decided I should be OK. For reassurance I explained my situation to my local satellite dealer who has just received stocks of the Toppy and they were happy to assert that the Toppy was at least as sensitive so I took the plunge last night and it's fine. It is probably slightly better than the outgoing Pioneer box as it can give me pictures on MuxD channels which, though mostly unwatchable due to blocking, is better than the Pioneer could.
The signal to tuner 2 on some of the BBC chanels is a bit weak so I will try a powered splitter instead of the link cable.
Very happy with the purchase Smile

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Magpie
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:20 pm Reply with quote
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Well, I took the plunge and the machine arrived today.  With only 1 tuner plugged in the picture is stable on all the main channels.  

All the signal strengths are in the 50-60% range (mostly 60) and all the quality bars are at 100%.  AFAICT I have all the services I had before - Mux C was missing before.

Plugging a second tuner in behind the first gives some problems.  So I guess it's time for a power splitter instead of the piggy back arrangements.

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Normsthename
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Where I live I cannot get freeview according to all the Postcode checkers, I get all the muxes, and have 78 channels in total (51 TV and 27 radio I think...)
I used to have a Digifusion FVRT100 and that worked fine, I have just got the Toppy and it works great. Only slight problem was with Channel 5 breaking up, the Toppy seems worse than the Digifusion, and I thought it was the linking Aerial cable, so today I bought a booster and put 2 aerial feeds into the Toppy, it has fixed the problem on Channel 5 and I am now very happy with the picture quality

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macleesh
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:53 am Reply with quote
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Further to my previous follow up, familiarisation has revealed more information. I have two sets of every channel available (i.e. two BBC1s etc) At first I thought it was something to do with there being two tuners but checking the channel numbers reveals that each is on a different frequency, one lot matching the Bilsdale digital frequencies (my transmitter) and the rest are coming from Pontop Pike which is about 150 degrees off my bearing to Bilsdale.
My aerial is a Televes Pro 45 (now called the DAT 45) and they are noted for having a large side lobe so it's either picking up Pontop on that or as a reflection off the very large hills that are directly in my line of shoot to Bilsdale. Either way the predicted field strength fom Pontop is 10dBuV but the Toppy is having little difficulty decoding these signals. Indeed it seems to have ordered the duplicates with the stronger ones first and for the BBC mux it prefers the Pontop service!
My old Pioneer box did use to find a second ITV mux but couldn't really do anything with it. The Toppy would appear to be a lot more sensitive.
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Magpie
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:47 am Reply with quote
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Following up on my own experience as a new owner, I found that the short jump-lead is a cause of problems.  

I read in the aerials topic that others had found this.  In my case both tuner 1 and 2 get good signals if I DON'T USE the short jump lead.  (I just grabbed an old one that came with a VCR and used that.)  Putting the short lead in gave almost nothing from the second tuner and problems on the first.

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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:22 am Reply with quote
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Knowing nothing about these things Smile Could it be a standing wave problem in the short cable?


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Magpie
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:53 am Reply with quote
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I don't think so. Rationale: I took a short length of low-loss coax and made my own lead of the same length as the one supplied; it works perfectly.


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sneeks
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:49 pm Reply with quote
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So is it looking like the supplied lead is part of the problem? It'll be cheaper for me to buy a new lead than purchase a signal booster with two outputs.
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