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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:21 am Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4222
Hi Steve

Thanks, but I really only needed the output of TM "Display| MyInfo Log"

You must resolve the duplicate channels. Actually, their presence implies that you are doing the tuning manually and this is almost always going to lead to errors.
You should only ever scan for channels using the ChannelOrganiser tap (in /Programfiles/Utilities) or the TM PCControl| Channel Management option. Both these methods eliminate duplicates by scanning a single transmitter (plus doing lots of other things including performing the Reset). They also remember channels that you have deleted making rescans much easier. Both share the same data files so changes made in one will be seen in the other.

Suggest you perform a rescan using one of these methods; you will need to know your local transmitter (looks like you are using Crystal Palace with LTM but it could be somewhere else)
If you don't want anything on the local mux then I suggest you just use Crystal Palace i.e. don't add the LTM (local muxes used to be broadcast on low power- perhaps not a problem nowadays, and this could lead to a poor quality signal leading to a corruption of the toppy file system; corruption = loss of everything on the disk).

Note: if you use the TM method, you will have to use Tools| Install Files| PcControl, PcControl| Channel Management, Detect My Transmitter and "at least 4"
If you use CO, choose the transmitter from the displayed list.

Both methods allow to to delete categories of channels, e.g. Shopping, Porn, etc for TM PcControl, right click in the display to see the options

As well as rescanning, use the provided methods to delete unwanted channels. Previously, users have been advised to keep the combined number of TV and Radio channels down to around 40, but, probably because of my PruneEPG tap, you should be able to keep about 65 TV + as many radio as you want to keep.

Finally, when you think you have it right do a TM Display| MyInfo Log and paste into this thread.

Then set a forum signature (TM Tools| Update Forum Profile); this will help others provide advice should you post with further problems.

Geoff

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TopManager program
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; PruneEPG 1.0; fsSave 1.1; QuickJump 1.72; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Bookmark 3.0; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MHEG On/Off A3;
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stevemj
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:14 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 08 Sep 2009 Posts: 18
Hi Geoff,

In too late this evening after a long day at work, so no time to to look at your reply.

I searched for channels by using the Toppy menu-installation.

Off to sleep now, as another early morning.

Thanks for your long posting, Steve zzzz

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; PruneEPG 1.0; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6;
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:57 am Reply with quote
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… you need to read that reply.

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TAPs: EIT Sub v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; Extend v1.7; MyStuff 6.6;
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stevemj
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:36 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 08 Sep 2009 Posts: 18
Hello again Geoff,

I've had mixed results with TM. I think I correctly re scanned for new channels. But there were aspects that are not clear to me. I need to revisit.

I have also had some file corruption. Even after all the reformatting.

Work have been busy so I've had little time available which hasn't helped.

I writing this as I don't want you to think that I am ignoring your advice.

Cheers, Steve

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; PruneEPG 1.0; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:36 am Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4222
Can you post your MyInfo Log in this thread (use "TM| Display| MyInfo Log" and cut and paste, as before)?

Can you also please run my fsCheck tap and post it's results in the dedicated fsCheck Reports thread?

Geoff

To run fsCheck
1) > on remote (between << and >>)
2) Archive; displays native list of recordings
3) press << (displays ProgramFiles)
4) Scroll down to Utilities and press OK
5) Scroll down to fsCheck.tap and press OK
6) follow screen instructions to save the report
7) TM Display | fsCheck Report

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TopManager program
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; PruneEPG 1.0; fsSave 1.1; QuickJump 1.72; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Bookmark 3.0; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MHEG On/Off A3;
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stevemj
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:17 am Reply with quote
Joined: 08 Sep 2009 Posts: 18
Hi Geoff,

Again, thanks for your patience.

Log is:
MyInfo B5.6 Logging settings etc on: 12/2/2019 at 22:25

Waiting for other TAPs to load and settle

Ini file found
Starting to record data 60 seconds from boot

System ID: 456
TV Output: Type = Auto, Video = RGB, RF Channel = 36
Reported firmware version: TF-NPT 5.13.65T dated Oct 10 2009
Base firmware version: 5.13.65

Running TAPS:
Slot 0: PcControl B1.4 : Toppy control from PC
Slot 1: PruneEPG 1.0 : Program to remove unnecessary entries from the EIT table
Slot 2: EPG2MEI v0.96 : Dumps the EPG data to disk as EPG.mei, with changes since last time in EPG_diff.mei
Slot 3: MyStuff 6.6 : UI Replacement
Slot 4: Font Manager 1.0d : Manage TAP Fonts
Slot 5: Extend v1.7 : Uses the Accurate Recording info to extend recordings (safely)
Slot 6: SecCache (UK) v0.4 : Optimal (UK) section caching to reduce the load on the Toppy
Slot 7: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6 : Provides faster, simpler and more robust EIT data collection, except when playing games
Slot 8: MHEG On/Off A3 : MHEG control
Slot 9: MyInfo B5.6 : Displays & records Toppy basic info
Slots 10 - 15 not used


Installed patch list:- Ab Bf Bq Ce Ck Cp Cw Cy De Ec Ee Ef Ep Er Es F Fm Gm H He Kt Mh Nf Ot P Pc R Ra Re Rh Rp Rs S Sd Sl Sr St T2 Td Te Tf Tp Ts Vr Xp Xw Xl
Firmware MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 modified thus: -Sy
Patch Decode Links - Will explain your patches:
MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 :- http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html?p=AbBfBqCeCkCpCwCyDeEcEeEfEpErEsFFmGmHHeKtMhNfOtPPcRRaReRhRpRsSSdSlSrStT2TdTeTfTpTsVrXpXwXl
Missing patches:- http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html?p=Sy

Time Mode set to Auto
Time Offset set to Auto

Found 109 TV channels and 32 Radio channels
No channel problems detected
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 22 are: 11, 12, 17, 23, 29, 32, 38, 41, 43, 46, 48, 49, 61, 65, 72, 233, 673, 697, 723, 730, 731, 732,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 23 are: 1, 2, 9, 201, 202, 231, 232, 250, 601, 700, 701, 702, 703, 704, 705, 706, 707, 708, 709, 710, 719, 720, 721, 722, 734,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 25 are: 16, 20, 21, 26, 27, 30, 34, 37, 44, 54, 55, 58, 59, 63, 66, 70, 76, 77, 80, 85, 87, 203, 211, 251, 252, 253, 261, 263, 264, 265, 266, 268, 269, 270, 271, 670, 671, 675, 678, 679, 695, 696, 724, 727, 728,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 26 are: 28,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 28 are: 18, 19, 22, 25, 31, 35, 36, 39, 42, 47, 62, 71, 73, 79, 81, 206, 234, 672, 674, 698, 699, 711, 712, 713, 714, 715, 716, 717, 718, 725,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 35 are: 8, 40, 50, 60, 207, 208,

Interactive Off
Timeshift On

Memory - Free: 11 MB, Available: 8 MB
Disk - Total: 233 GB, Free: 210 GB

15 recordings (15 GB) + 0 deleted (0 GB) in 1 folders (+ 0 empty folders)

Time since boot: 0:0:1 (d:h:m)

Suggested signature for Toppy forum - copy following lines to signature block at http://forum.toppy.org.uk/forum/profile.php?mode=editprofile
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; PruneEPG 1.0; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 12/2/19

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I tried to run fsCheck with TM connected.

But at step:
To run fsCheck
1) > on remote (between << and >>)
There was no change on laptop and TV screen shown yellow bar at screen top. I'm clearly not at the right start point Sad

Best regards, Steve

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; PruneEPG 1.0; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:44 am Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4222
The MyInfo log looks fine apart from you having too many channels Note: this assumes that you tuned to the correct transmitter + do you really want 2Cool

Suggest you use TM| PcControl| Channel Management to delete unwanted channels
1) Right click in the list of displayed channels and select an appropriate option e.g. Pay, Porn, Shopping etc. This will mark unwanted channels for deletion
2) Scan through the list selecting any other channels that you have no inteerest in
3) Delete Channels
4) Finalise

Having reduced the channels, you can (if you wish) set up a favourites file of the channels you typically watch and in your own display order (TM| PcControl| Manage Favourites ?). You might want to create a new favourites list e.g. OurTV or MyTV (don't forget to modify the MyStuff option to say that this is your default list)

Re fsCheck, looks like you managed the first option successfully! - you just didn't do the 2nd option (press Archive). Step 1 is just to gain access to the native toppy functions i.e. to prevent MyStuff processing the key strokes

When you say you have file corruption, what are you experiencing?

Geoff

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; PruneEPG 1.0; fsSave 1.1; QuickJump 1.72; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Bookmark 3.0; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MHEG On/Off A3;
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