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leenoble
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:32 pm Reply with quote
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Off topic but - I've always used an external source for the EPG. The over the air one doesn't have the same detail. I've not updated my sig for some time. Pretty sure I'm on v 6.5 of MyStuff but no version of MS is going to give me the equivalent of the old Radio Times EPG source without updating via USB since I've never had a slug (are they still a thing).
I got my setup sorted a long time ago and outside the two times I've had to source a new EPG provider as old ones closed down or barred access I've seen no need to research alternatives.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:17 pm Reply with quote
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If it works for you then stick with it.

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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:22 pm Reply with quote
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leenoble wrote:
I did click the link provided above regarding the Enigma 2 and I'll probably look into it further when I need to but the first thing I noted was that the shop was out of stock and the device seems to have already been available for several years. Doesn't seem particularly easy to find a retailer but I found one eventually.


The thread was started over 4 years ago, boxes come and go, terrestrial only receivers are not so easy to source at the moment, but maybe have a look here.

https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home

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alan_m
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:51 pm Reply with quote
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leenoble wrote:

I did click the link provided above regarding the Enigma 2 and I'll probably look into it further when I need to but the first thing I noted was that the shop was out of stock and the device seems to have already been available for several years.


World of Satellite sell 19 different brands of Enigma 2 boxes and each brand has various models. The models come with different specifications and price points. Many boxes have interchangeable tuners and World of Satellite have the same boxes with various combinations of tuners. All support the OpenVix software.

You may no longer find the same models as used by those of us that moved over many years ago but many new models have appeared in the last six months or so. These new boxes support SD, HD and now UHD (4K) TV broadcast and in general are much better specified (faster CPUs. dual/quad core. more RAM. more Flash etc) for you money than the equivalent of a couple of years ago.

If you go the satellite route rather than terestrail many of the new boxes support unicable LNBs (equivalent of perhaps 32 LNBs down a single coaxial cable from the dish) and have FCB tuners (the equivalent of 8 seperate traditional tuners in one tuner slot).

A fairly good introduction can be found at (read the whole thread)
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?59981-Guide-to-using-Unicable
You may have to register for the forum to read the article

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Doesn't seem particularly easy to find a retailer but I found one eventually.


World of Satellite (WOS) the sponsor of the OpenVix site

http://www.world-of-satellite.com = OpenVix Downloads/user forum
http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk = shop/retailer

OpenVix is third party hobbyist written software. Enigma 2 boxes can also be used with a couple of different (but basically similar) images

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Can the UI on the Enigma match MyStuff? Wink


Its missing a few features. On the other hand it has additional features and some things are done in a different way so yes with a slight change of mind set it is very comparable. You can change skins and add plugins etc. Hundreds of configurable parameters which you may or may not want to change. Because these boxes can record 8 or more programmes at the same time there is no need for things such as back to back record merging.

The network capability also allows recording to external devices.

For Freesat, Freeview or Free to Air Sky you can get the 7 day EPG over the air. Alternatively because the box is network capable you can configure it to automatically fetch a EPG from the Internet on a daily basis.

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YorkshireJumbo
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:22 am Reply with quote
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I've just been to look at the WoS website. Shocked So much choice, so much of which makes little sense to a newbie. How on earth do you choose from all the different options? Shocked

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leenoble
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:36 am Reply with quote
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I'm not yet in the market for a new box but glad to know there are options, even if they seem a little overwhelming. I think when I was first looking for a PVR I spent some considerable time researching and I may even have joined this forum before I made my choice based on the wealth of information available from the healthy community surrounding the Toppy at the time. It looks like when the time does come I'll have to spend some time in those Enigma forums working things out - unless someone wants to start a "Refugee from Topfield" thread over there for us to congregate in Wink

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alan_m
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:27 pm Reply with quote
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leenoble wrote:
I'm not yet in the market for a new box but glad to know there are options, even if they seem a little overwhelming. I think when I was first looking for a PVR I spent some considerable time researching and I may even have joined this forum before I made my choice based on the wealth of information available from the healthy community surrounding the Toppy at the time. It looks like when the time does come I'll have to spend some time in those Enigma forums working things out - unless someone wants to start a "Refugee from Topfield" thread over there for us to congregate in Wink


Lots of information in this Toppy thread
https://forum.toppy.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20627

Possibly read the thread backwards beacause it started 4/5 years ago. Boxes have changed in the intervening years (old boxes no longer sold - better specified boxes have come into the market).

Te OpenVix software (image) which can be pre-installed on these boxes by World of Satellite fundamentally hasn't changed apart from perhaps being a bit more user friedly in for Uk customers wanting to scan for Freeview/Freesat channel. Phyically small boxes will require an external hard disk for PVR functionality. Larger boxes will have the faciilty to take internal hard disks.

Although the following video contains a few errors and wrong assumptions it gives a fairly good guide to what OpanVix is about and the capabilities of these boxes. One error concerns jumping backwards by a (configurable) fixed amount through a recording or timeshifted prrogramme - the boxes have this capability. Don't worry about references to the Miraclebox model as Openvix on any Enigam 2 machine works in the same way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMUwpe2IO0c&feature=youtu.be


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gomezz
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:38 pm Reply with quote
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leenoble wrote:
I'm not yet in the market for a new box but glad to know there are options, even if they seem a little overwhelming
The route I went down was first to get a Freesat PVR (for the 2010 World Cup in HD) then a Dizzy Freeview HD PVR for when my Toppy finally failed. Also got a BT Youview PVR (primarily for the MotoGP coverage) which means I am a little overprovisioned with recording capability but difficult to retire any of the devices given their respective unique capabilities.

Operating them all made a lot easier with the use of a Harmony activity-based remote control where the same button does the same thing on each device for the common functions with soft-keys on the remote screen for the more esoteric dedicated functions.

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goodolpete
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:02 pm Reply with quote
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I know with Enigma2 boxes you can get satellite HD channels,
but do the other satellite channels have the same quality/bandwidth as
the Freeview channels that the Toppy can pick up?

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alan_m
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:04 pm Reply with quote
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goodolpete wrote:
I know with Enigma2 boxes you can get satellite HD channels,
but do the other satellite channels have the same quality/bandwidth as
the Freeview channels that the Toppy can pick up?


The Enigma 2 boxes also do HD on Terestrial (T/T2 tuners)

Possibly Freeview SD has the edge for bitrates over Freesat SD at the present time but that doesn't mean that things will not change in the future.

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