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tippy
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:05 pm Reply with quote
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juwlz wrote:
tippy wrote:
i also cant find how to expand search, i normally just press record and select one of the options.
Press OK on the search in the search list, then press and hold OK on the top line to expand the search. (Normally, only those search groups that are going to set timers are shown.)

Another quick tip: If you then find loads of out of date search groups, change the search to a Text Search, and then back to a Power Search to get rid of the out of date ones.

Julie

hi julie, thanks for the walkthru and tip, i will try that when toppy eventually re fills the epg.
there are still a few areas blank, mainly itvs, c4s and bbc2.
all the missing itv 1 epg is for the 7pm till 9pm ish area, all week except thursday.

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; QuickJump 1.72; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; (MyInfo B5.6); MHEG On/Off A3; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:57 pm Reply with quote
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You need to use Channel Organiser 2.1 not a5 (which is ancient).
You may also have manually deleted the "wrong" duplicates resulting in receiving EPG info from multiple transmitters. Also, I don't know what exclusions CO A.5 may have placed in EPG2MEI.ini; this may mean that you are rejecting info for certain channels.

CO 2.1 allows you to choose a single transmitter (which removes most duplicates) and provides easy deletion of rubbish channels (pay, porn, social, shopping etc). It also remembers your selections making a rescan much easier.

So it looks like you need to connect to a pc to download the new CO. I suspect you should also do a full install (accepting all options) using the MyStuff installer (your use of CO a5 indicates that you have just copied new versions of the MyStuff tap; this may mean that you are missing some associated patches and/or taps)

If you really can't connect a PC then you could run MyInfo manually and check that you are only receiving signals from Tacolneston (muxes 55, 59, 42, 45, 39 and optionally 57). But your best bet is to get CO 2.1 on the toppy (which the full install of MS 6.6 will do for you)

Upgrading CO/MS may not immediately fix your problem but it will move you in the correct direction i.e. after upgrading, reboot the toppy and post the "resulting" MyInfo Log.

Geoff

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; PruneEPG 1.0; fsSave 1.1; QuickJump 1.72; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Bookmark 3.0; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MHEG On/Off A3;
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tippy
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:40 am Reply with quote
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Geoff Bacon wrote:
You need to use Channel Organiser 2.1 not a5 (which is ancient).
You may also have manually deleted the "wrong" duplicates resulting in receiving EPG info from multiple transmitters. Also, I don't know what exclusions CO A.5 may have placed in EPG2MEI.ini; this may mean that you are rejecting info for certain channels.

CO 2.1 allows you to choose a single transmitter (which removes most duplicates) and provides easy deletion of rubbish channels (pay, porn, social, shopping etc). It also remembers your selections making a rescan much easier.

So it looks like you need to connect to a pc to download the new CO. I suspect you should also do a full install (accepting all options) using the MyStuff installer (your use of CO a5 indicates that you have just copied new versions of the MyStuff tap; this may mean that you are missing some associated patches and/or taps)

If you really can't connect a PC then you could run MyInfo manually and check that you are only receiving signals from Tacolneston (muxes 55, 59, 42, 45, 39 and optionally 57). But your best bet is to get CO 2.1 on the toppy (which the full install of MS 6.6 will do for you)

Upgrading CO/MS may not immediately fix your problem but it will move you in the correct direction i.e. after upgrading, reboot the toppy and post the "resulting" MyInfo Log.

Geoff

thanks geoff,
went into my taps and that is what it said, a5.
i am able to pick transmitters, well i assume i can mine is "brown" i cant remember the numbers or look right now but i wonder why i would be using a really old CO when im using ms 6.5, id thought all taps upgraded when installed 6.5.
i will attempt to do the drivers tomorrow as i wont gt access to my old laptop for another week.
if im honest ive been lazy as not a lot rattles my toppy and ive not fully updated for maybe 2 years.

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; QuickJump 1.72; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; (MyInfo B5.6); MHEG On/Off A3; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6;
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Bizman
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:51 am Reply with quote
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tippy wrote:
ive not fully updated for maybe 2 years.
OMG! A lot of changes have occurred on Freeview in that time, I am not surprised you are having problems. Shocked

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TAPs: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; MHEG On/Off A3; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; PruneEPG 1.0; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; Extend v1.7; (fsSave 1.1);
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Other TAPs : FsCheck, Channel Organiser. PSU Caps 7/2/2011 Tx: Mendip. TV: Samsung (32"), NSLU2, STB: Labgear FV300. PC Acer Aspire One with Win7 Starter
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tippy
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:59 am Reply with quote
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ok, i have downloaded antares 1.1 and z4t.
i have "i think" the laptop in driver sig off mode.
what is next, i havent installed neither at this point.

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; QuickJump 1.72; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; (MyInfo B5.6); MHEG On/Off A3; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6;
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ccs
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:15 pm Reply with quote
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Try this link

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TAPs: EIT Sub v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; Extend v1.7; MyStuff 6.6;
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tippy
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:22 pm Reply with quote
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ccs wrote:

ive followed that procedure and the laptop is now in "Disable driver signature enforcement" mode.
do i install both antares and z4t onto the laptop, if so in what order.

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; QuickJump 1.72; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; (MyInfo B5.6); MHEG On/Off A3; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6;
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ccs
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:24 pm Reply with quote
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According to the link, run z4t, which will install the driver, reboot, and then install Antares.

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TAPs: EIT Sub v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; Extend v1.7; MyStuff 6.6;
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tippy
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:25 pm Reply with quote
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ccs wrote:
According to the link, run z4t, which will install the driver, reboot, and then install Antares.

thanks.

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; QuickJump 1.72; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; (MyInfo B5.6); MHEG On/Off A3; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6;
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ccs
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:28 pm Reply with quote
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The Antares zip file only holds the .exe file, so install means put the .exe file wherever you want.

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TAPs: EIT Sub v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; Extend v1.7; MyStuff 6.6;
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tippy
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:41 pm Reply with quote
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ok ive installed the driver too toppy and antares now works after downloading "netframe" i think.
ive downloaded ms 6.6 and will download latest channel organiser shortly.
i have too go out for a couple of hours but is there anything else i need to do beforehand.

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; QuickJump 1.72; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; (MyInfo B5.6); MHEG On/Off A3; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6;
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ccs
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:50 pm Reply with quote
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Not sure you needed to install .NET, as it is usually already there, so best to check later if you're now running the latest version of .NET

Run the 6.6 installer and answer yes to everything - especially the firmware update.

When it's finished, I'd reboot tapless (hold down the zero key on the remote while loading)
and run CO to scan and delete as many tv and radio channels - get down to about 40.
Then reload and allow Mystuff 30 minutes to get sorted.

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TAPs: EIT Sub v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; Extend v1.7; MyStuff 6.6;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:54 pm Reply with quote
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Did you use the full MyStuff installer (including firmware) and accept all options? If so, CO 2.1 should be in \ProgramFiles\Utilities.
When you use it, choose your transmitter by name (not "Brown")

Alternatively, while you have a connection, do the scan in TopManager/PcControl As you haven't updated the toppy for 2 years, you probably also need to update TM (it should tell you) and use Tools| Install Files| PcControl (followed by toppy reboot).

Please post the MyInfo log when you think it is all ok.

While running TM, do a Tools| Analyze ProgramFiles to see if you have any duplicates of Channel Organiser (select the one with version a5, if it still exists, and press the Delete key).

Also use Tools| Update Forum Profile

Geoff

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; PruneEPG 1.0; fsSave 1.1; QuickJump 1.72; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Bookmark 3.0; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MHEG On/Off A3;
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tippy
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:48 pm Reply with quote
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thanks guys for your patience.
i finally think i am there, below is my log.

MyInfo B5.6 Logging settings etc on: 8/2/2015 at 14:56

Waiting for other TAPs to load and settle

Ini file found
Starting to record data 60 seconds from boot

System ID: 456
TV Output: Type = Auto, Video = RGB, RF Channel = 36
Reported firmware version: TF-NPT 5.13.65T dated Oct 10 2009
Base firmware version: 5.13.65

Running TAPS:
Slot 0: PcControl B1.4 : Toppy control from PC
Slot 1: QuickJump 1.72 : Jump with the coloured buttons
Slot 2: EPG2MEI v0.96 : Dumps the EPG data to disk as EPG.mei, with changes since last time in EPG_diff.mei
Slot 3: MyStuff 6.6 : UI Replacement
Slot 4: Font Manager 1.0d : Manage TAP Fonts
Slot 5: Extend v1.7 : Uses the Accurate Recording info to extend recordings (safely)
Slot 6: MyInfo B5.6 : Displays & records Toppy basic info
Slot 7: MHEG On/Off A3 : MHEG control
Slot 8: SecCache (UK) v0.4 : Optimal (UK) section caching to reduce the load on the Toppy
Slot 9: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6 : Provides faster, simpler and more robust EIT data collection, except when playing games
Slots 10 - 15 not used

Installed patch list:- Ab Bf Bq Ce Ck Cp Cw Cy De Ec Ee Ef Ep Er Es F Fm Gm H He Kt Mh Nf Ot P Pc Pe R Ra Re Rh Rp Rs S Sd Sl Sr St T2 Td Te Tf Tp Ts Vr Xp Xw Xl
Firmware MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 modified thus: -Sy+Pe
Patch Decode Links - Will explain your patches:
MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 :- http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html?p=AbBfBqCeCkCpCwCyDeEcEeEfEpErEsFFmGmHHeKtMhNfOtPPcPeRRaReRhRpRsSSdSlSrStT2TdTeTfTpTsVrXpXwXl
Missing patches:- http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html?p=Sy
Extra patches:- http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html?p=Pe

Time Mode set to Auto
Time Offset set to Auto

Found 56 TV channels and 1 Radio channels
No channel problems detected
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 39 are: 19, 24, 25, 38, 47, 70, 133, 135,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 42 are: 10, 20, 26, 27, 30, 31, 34, 37, 44, 55, 61, 62, 66, 72, 122,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 45 are: 11, 12, 17, 29, 32, 41, 46, 48, 68, 69, 126, 132, 732,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 55 are: 1, 2, 7, 9, 120, 121, 130, 131, 200, 601,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 57 are: 8, 125,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 59 are: 3, 4, 5, 6, 13, 14, 15, 28, 33,

Interactive Off
Timeshift On

Memory - Free: 12 MB, Available: 12 MB
Disk - Total: 233 GB, Free: 140 GB

26 recordings (43 GB) + 29 deleted (45 GB) in 1 folders (+ 0 empty folders)

Time since boot: 0:0:1 (d:h:m)

anything else i should do?.

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; QuickJump 1.72; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; (MyInfo B5.6); MHEG On/Off A3; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6;
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ccs
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:36 pm Reply with quote
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Looks ok to me.

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