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Bizman
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:12 pm Reply with quote
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Works for me ok.
Code:

File System Analysis
--------------------
Generated by  fsCheck 1.1  on  08/10/2013 14:06


VERDICT: The file system appears  GOOD

  Number of folders = 18
  Number of files   = 241
  Capacity          = 466 GB  (319 GB free)

  No issues found

DISK GEOMETRY
-------------
  Total Sectors       = 976773168  (466 GB)
  Number of Clusters  = 129889
  Sectors Per Cluster = 7520
  Sectors used by FAT = 762

DISK USAGE
----------
  Number of folders   = 18
  Number of files     = 241
  Capacity            = 466 GB
  Free space in FAT   = 319 GB  (89096 clusters)
  Computed free space = 319 GB  (89096 clusters)

SMART DATA
----------
  HDDModel:  WDC WD5000AVJB-63J1A0
  Firmware:  05.04E05
  HDDSerial: WD-WCASZ0834796
  AAM:       Supported  (Mode 4/4: Silent)
  APM:       Not supported
  Smart:     Enabled, AutoSave On, Tests passed

  Attr  Description                Value Worst  Thr        Raw  Flags
  0x01  Raw Read Error Rate          200   200   51          0  0x2f wpr_os
  0x03  Spin Up Time                 163   159   21       4833  0x27 wp__os
  0x04  Start/Stop Count              94    94   ..       6943  0x32 ___cos
  0x05  Reallocated Sector Count     200   200  140          0  0x33 w__cos
  0x07  Seek Error Rate              100   253   ..          0  0x2e _pr_os
  0x09  Power On Hours Count          83    83   ..      13093  0x32 ___cos
  0x0a  Spin Retry Count             100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0b  Calibration Retry Count      100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0c  Power Cycle Count             94    94   ..       6347  0x32 ___cos
  0xc0  Power-Off Retract Count      200   200   ..         39  0x32 ___cos
  0xc1  Load Cycle Count             198   198   ..       6932  0x32 ___cos
  0xc2  Device Temperature           104    81   ..         43  0x22 ____os
  0xc4  Reallocated Event Count      200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc5  Current Pending Sector       200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc6  Uncorrectable Sector Count   100   253   ..          0  0x30 ___c_s
  0xc7  UDMA CRC Error Count         200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc8  Write Error Rate             100   253   ..          0  0x08 __r___

An interpretation of the SMART data
-----------------------------------
        Acronis Health Indicator = 100 %
  While the disk temperature is now 43C, it has been as high as 66C.

PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
----------------------
  Dynamic Memory Avail= 13905 KB
  Amount Used         =   203 KB
  - for Analysis      =    52 KB
  - for Display       =   151 KB
  Time Taken          =  3260 ms

*** END OF REPORT ***

Glad to see the temperature in there now as my place gets very hot during the various recent heatwaves.
You can also compare v1.0 with v1.1

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:20 pm Reply with quote
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@anthony2l

Sorry about that.
I'm guessing that you just typed the output in from the TV screen.
Immediately after displaying "DISK GEOMETRY", the tap calls FireBird's HDD_GetHDDInfo routine. When it returns, it immediately displays "Total Sectors" (or an error message if the call failed). This implies that the call didn't complete (surprising as HDD_GetHDDInfo looks quite innocuous) or that something has been overwritten in the tap (but I have been very defensive in the code to prevent this).

Please retry when you feel comfortable/ it is convenient.
If you still have problems then please send a PM or email.

Geoff

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anthony2l
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:08 pm Reply with quote
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OK, worked this time and repeated trying to reproduce same conditions (I was in TM on the Tap Commander screen when it crashed.

Anyhow, results below. I don't understand what the device temperatures represent and why I don't have a disk temperature.

Contents of \ProgramFiles\Logs\fsCheck_2013-10-08_17-39.log
-----------------------------------------------------------

Code:

File System Analysis
--------------------
Generated by  fsCheck 1.1  on  08/10/2013 17:39


VERDICT: The file system appears  GOOD

  Number of folders = 24
  Number of files   = 391
  Capacity          = 466 GB  (216 GB free)

  No issues found

  /DataFiles/__temprec__.ts
    >>> File currently being modified by Time Shifting (you can ignore this).

DISK GEOMETRY
-------------
  Total Sectors       = 976773168  (466 GB)
  Number of Clusters  = 129889
  Sectors Per Cluster = 7520
  Sectors used by FAT = 762

DISK USAGE
----------
  Number of folders   = 24
  Number of files     = 391
  Capacity            = 466 GB
  Free space in FAT   = 216 GB  (60261 clusters)
  Computed free space = 216 GB  (60261 clusters)

SMART DATA
----------
  HDDModel:  WDC WD5000AVDS-63U7B1
  Firmware:  01.00A01
  HDDSerial: WD-WCAV97238114
  AAM:       Supported  (Mode 4/4: Silent)
  APM:       Not supported
  Smart:     Enabled, AutoSave On, Tests passed

  Attr  Description                Value Worst  Thr        Raw  Flags
  0x01  Raw Read Error Rate          200   200   51          0  0x2f wpr_os
  0x03  Spin Up Time                 192   188   21       3400  0x27 wp__os
  0x04  Start/Stop Count              99    99   ..       1692  0x32 ___cos
  0x05  Reallocated Sector Count     200   200  140          0  0x33 w__cos
  0x07  Seek Error Rate              200   200   ..          0  0x2e _pr_os
  0x09  Power On Hours Count          92    92   ..       5870  0x32 ___cos
  0x0a  Spin Retry Count             100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0b  Calibration Retry Count      100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0c  Power Cycle Count             99    99   ..       1598  0x32 ___cos
  0xc0  Power-Off Retract Count      200   200   ..         58  0x32 ___cos
  0xc1  Load Cycle Count             200   200   ..       2996  0x32 ___cos
  0xc2  Device Temperature           116    94   ..         27  0x22 ____os
  0xc4  Reallocated Event Count      200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc5  Current Pending Sector       200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc6  Uncorrectable Sector Count   100   253   ..          0  0x30 ___c_s
  0xc7  UDMA CRC Error Count         200   200   ..          1  0x32 ___cos
  0xc8  Write Error Rate             100   253   ..          0  0x08 __r___

An interpretation of the SMART data
-----------------------------------
        Acronis Health Indicator = 100 %

PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
----------------------
  Dynamic Memory Avail=  8028 KB
  Amount Used         =   235 KB
  - for Analysis      =    84 KB
  - for Display       =   151 KB
  Time Taken          =  4600 ms

*** END OF REPORT ***

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anthony2l
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:14 pm Reply with quote
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@ Geoff
Just to add another little job for you.

Code:

Analysing Data ...
<<< Some files were not recognised
Analysis Complete


These are the two fscheck log files I now have.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:19 pm Reply with quote
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@anthony2l

Thanks for trying again; that all looks fine.
Quote:
0xc2 Device Temperature 116 94 .. 27 0x22


This is showing that the temperature is currently 27 degrees C (very good) and this equates to a normalised value of 116. The normalised worst value (94) therefore equates to 49 C (116+27-94) i.e. the disk is currently at 27C degrees and the hottest it has been is 49C.

You don't have a message about the disk temperature because the interpretation only includes this when the current disk temperature (or the worst temperature) is 60C or more.

Geoff

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anthony2l
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:43 pm Reply with quote
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@Geoff

Thanks, I think I follow that. I have a TV sitting on the Toppy, and try to leave as much vent as possible clear. With the hot summer we've had it seems as if I'm not causing a problem.

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ccs
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anthony2l wrote:
I have a TV sitting on the Toppy Shocked

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anthony2l
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ccs wrote:
anthony2l wrote:
I have a TV sitting on the Toppy Shocked

Not sure if that's a Shocked Smile
or
Shocked Sad

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luke.o
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:11 pm Reply with quote
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Hi Geoff

Here's mine using v1.1.

Luke

Code:

File System Analysis
--------------------
Generated by  fsCheck 1.1  on  08/10/2013 21:00


VERDICT: The file system appears  GOOD

  Number of folders = 74
  Number of files   = 814
  Capacity          = 1397 GB  (952 GB free)

  No issues found

  /DataFiles/__temprec__.ts
    >>> File currently being modified by Time Shifting (you can ignore this).

  /DataFiles/The Wrong Mans.rec
    >>> Recording in progress

DISK GEOMETRY
-------------
  Total Sectors       = 2930277168  (1397 GB)
  Number of Clusters  = 130978
  Sectors Per Cluster = 22372
  Sectors used by FAT = 768

DISK USAGE
----------
  Number of folders   = 74
  Number of files     = 814
  Capacity            = 1397 GB
  Free space in FAT   = 952 GB  (89204 clusters)
  Computed free space = 952 GB  (89204 clusters)

SMART DATA
----------
  HDDModel:  WDC WD15EARS-00S0XB0
  Firmware:  80.00A80
  HDDSerial: WD-WCC1H0012961
  AAM:       Not supported
  APM:       Not supported
  Smart:     Enabled, AutoSave On, Tests passed

  Attr  Description                Value Worst  Thr        Raw  Flags
  0x01  Raw Read Error Rate          200   200   51          0  0x2f wpr_os
  0x03  Spin Up Time                 223   219   21       7816  0x27 wp__os
  0x04  Start/Stop Count             100   100   ..        191  0x32 ___cos
  0x05  Reallocated Sector Count     200   200  140          0  0x33 w__cos
  0x07  Seek Error Rate              200   200   ..          0  0x2e _pr_os
  0x09  Power On Hours Count         100   100   ..        553  0x32 ___cos
  0x0a  Spin Retry Count             100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0b  Calibration Retry Count      100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0c  Power Cycle Count            100   100   ..        185  0x32 ___cos
  0xc0  Power-Off Retract Count      200   200   ..         11  0x32 ___cos
  0xc1  Load Cycle Count             199   199   ..       5726  0x32 ___cos
  0xc2  Device Temperature           100    97   ..         50  0x22 ____os
  0xc4  Reallocated Event Count      200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc5  Current Pending Sector       200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc6  Uncorrectable Sector Count   200   200   ..          0  0x30 ___c_s
  0xc7  UDMA CRC Error Count         200   200   ..          5  0x32 ___cos
  0xc8  Write Error Rate             200   200   ..          0  0x08 __r___

An interpretation of the SMART data
-----------------------------------
        Acronis Health Indicator = 100 %
  The Spin Up Time is not very good.

PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
----------------------
  Dynamic Memory Avail=  7702 KB
  Amount Used         =   287 KB
  - for Analysis      =   136 KB
  - for Display       =   151 KB
  Time Taken          = 14160 ms

*** END OF REPORT ***

[/code]

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:09 pm Reply with quote
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@luke.0

Thanks
Geoff

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Geoff Bacon
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I have updated TopManager to v4.6.1 (this now looks for fsCheck reports in \ProgramFiles\Logs\ - fixes problem reported by anthony2l)

Note: I have set it so that users already on v4.6 won't be advised that the update exists (saves users updating for minor fixes)

Geoff

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BigAl
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:17 am Reply with quote
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Hi Geoff,

Here's mine, using fsCheck v1.1

Code:

File System Analysis
--------------------
Generated by  fsCheck 1.1  on  10/10/2013 09:41


VERDICT: The file system appears  GOOD

  Number of folders = 18
  Number of files   = 376
  Capacity          = 149 GB  (75 GB free)

  No issues found

  /DataFiles/__temprec__.ts
    >>> File currently being modified by Time Shifting (you can ignore this).

DISK GEOMETRY
-------------
  Total Sectors       = 312579695  (149 GB)
  Number of Clusters  = 127895
  Sectors Per Cluster = 2444
  Sectors used by FAT = 750

DISK USAGE
----------
  Number of folders   = 18
  Number of files     = 376
  Capacity            = 149 GB
  Free space in FAT   = 75 GB  (64015 clusters)
  Computed free space = 75 GB  (64015 clusters)

SMART DATA
----------
  HDDModel:  ST3160022ACE
  Firmware:  9.51
  HDDSerial: 5JS4JEYN
  AAM:       Not supported
  APM:       Not supported
  Smart:     Enabled, AutoSave On, Tests passed

  Attr  Description                Value Worst  Thr        Raw  Flags
  0x01  Raw Read Error Rate           70    63    6  120212076  0x0f wpr_o_
  0x03  Spin Up Time                  96    96   ..          0  0x03 w___o_
  0x04  Start/Stop Count             100   100   20        700  0x32 ___cos
  0x05  Reallocated Sector Count     100   100   36          0  0x33 w__cos
  0x07  Seek Error Rate               72    60   30   18642126  0x0f wpr_o_
  0x09  Power On Hours Count          99    99   ..       1195  0x32 ___cos
  0x0a  Spin Retry Count             100   100   97          0  0x13 w__co_
  0x0c  Power Cycle Count             88    88   20      13100  0x32 ___cos
  0xc2  Device Temperature            49    60   ..         49  0x22 ____os
  0xc3  Hardware ECC Recovered        70    63   ..  120212076  0x1a __rco_
  0xc5  Current Pending Sector       100   100   ..          0  0x12 ___co_
  0xc6  Uncorrectable Sector Count   100   100   ..          0  0x10 ___c__
  0xc7  UDMA CRC Error Count         200   200   ..          0  0x3e _prcos
  0xc8  Write Error Rate             100   253   ..          0  0x00 ______
  0xca  DAM Error Rate               100   253   ..          0  0x32 ___cos

An interpretation of the SMART data
-----------------------------------
        Acronis Health Indicator = 100 %
  The non-zero Raw Read Error Rate can be ignored (assuming no other failure
  indications).

PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
----------------------
  Dynamic Memory Avail=  8405 KB
  Amount Used         =   219 KB
  - for Analysis      =    68 KB
  - for Display       =   151 KB
  Time Taken          =  2530 ms

*** END OF REPORT ***


The 'Raw Read Error Rate' and 'Hardware ECC Recovered' have increased from 102554291 since I first ran fsCheck on 25/09/2013, and the 'Seek Error Rate' has increased from 18557962: are these figures anything to be concerned about? The disk is the original one from May 2005.

Many thanks for this most useful TAP.


Last edited by BigAl on Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:24 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:46 am Reply with quote
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@BigAl

That all looks fine - you can ignore the attributes you mentioned as these are "rates" (varying with time) rather than counts (indicated by the c in wprcos flags). Rates typically have a threshold and it this you need to focus on; the disk is sick if the value (or worst) is less than (or equal?) the threshold (Thr).

I see you don't have a signature. Suggest you post \ProgramFiles\Logs\MyInfo Log (please post in a new thread) and create a forum signature. You can use TopManager to help you do this.

Geoff

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BigAl
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:30 pm Reply with quote
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@Geoff

Many thanks for the helpful information.

Apologies for the missing signature - I do have one, but just forgot to attach it.
Now updated and attached.

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MikB
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:25 am Reply with quote
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anthony2l wrote:
@Geoff
I have a TV sitting on the Toppy


I think the more important point is:- CRT or LCD? Laughing

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