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Rich_Enduro
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:14 pm Reply with quote
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just wondering what those of you have done who have opted for a freeview HD box? the Humax seems like the top choice but is it? finding the toppy was a complete fluke and i purchased on the strength of online recommendations, so is there any other secrets i should know about? i loved the fact the toppy could install taps but is there anything as flexible available in the UK with HD?
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ryclark
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:09 pm Reply with quote
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Although not nearly as configurable as the Toppy the Humax HDR-Fox T2 does now have quite a lot of hacking available. See their forums.

http://hummy.tv/forum/forums/hdr-fox-t2.13/

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Wallace
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:24 pm Reply with quote
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Yep, I can whole heartedly recommend the Humax HDR-FOX-T2.

I am running custom firmware, which further enhances an excellent PVR.

IMHO, picture quality is excellent as are the menus.

The orange display got on my nerves so when I changed the 500GB HDD to a 1TB one I removed the orange plastic strip that was in front of the GREEN VFD display.

As the previous post says, take a look over at Hummy.tv

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DX
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:29 am Reply with quote
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Rich_Enduro wrote:
is there anything as flexible available in the UK with HD?

If it is flexibility you want then a HTPC offers that. There are addons for Windows 7 Media Center, or if you prefer there are open source alternatives running on linux.

If you want to stick with a conventional pvr then the Humax is probably the default choice. A cheaper alternative is the Digital Stream, although this is less flexible.

If you can wait a little while new YouView machines should be along next year. Even if you decide not to go for one of the new YouView pvrs you might be able to pick up a bargain as the current generation of Freeview HD pvrs get replaced.
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Rich_Enduro
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:38 pm Reply with quote
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HTPC, is that what they did on the gadget show a couple of weeks ago? i don't mind a little tinkering but not building my own pvr!! shame the whole meego project has gone tits up! i was really looking forward to something being on the market by now. having a program guide and recording list on a tablet, seamlessly communicating with the pvr under the telly would of been fantastic. unfortunately, waiting for linux to reach that goal isn't going to happen before i need to upgrade.
i'd forgotten about the youview project. it would be great if this got into stores in time for xmas. i'm in no hurry, just my old toppy would of made an extra xmas present (they'll never realise its second hand!!) !
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CraigB
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:02 pm Reply with quote
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I am also contemplating an HD upgrade and came across a reference to Icecrypts STC6000 (and just spotted their T2400) which is running Linux and has the concept of plugins.

However...as I'm not desperate to retire my toppy just yet, the replacement would need to have some clear benefits while at least keeping pace with the features I actually use on the toppy.

- via MyStuff I'm getting series when they match my search criteria
- I've squeezed 2Tb into my toppy
- I get 2wks of EPG via rt2mei/Radio Times
- I was able to configure the onscreen guide to give me a look and feel and enough channels/timespan to keep me happy (I cant stand the Sky guide that I see friends using in comparison)
- I can (though do so infrequently) schedule recordings remotely via toppyweb

HD would be lovely - as would built in network/wifi support, faster data transfer when I need it (not common)...though I understand that the Icecrypt rec files may be encrypted as std.

I have an existing HTPC sitting beside the toppy, running W7, but it only gets used for viewing web content/iplayer/4OD etc and the cost of two DVB-T2 cards for it doesnt seem worth it...

Any views on Icecrypt as an option ?

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CraigB
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:00 pm Reply with quote
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I'm going to answer my own question....having actually read the hummy.tv site now Embarassed I'm going to order a Humax!

A helpful toppy-like community actively developing and supporting each other, clear instructions on upgrading to a 2Tb drive, and a web scheduling interface already available/developed.

(and there is at least discussion in their forums on a 14day EPG feed, so there is hope of that for the future!)

Craig

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Rich_Enduro
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:00 pm Reply with quote
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I think i'm going to try and hang on until next year and see what the youview box brings. I like the fact the platform is open so there's a remote possibility great apps such as mystuff might appear Wink
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ezhik
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:16 am Reply with quote
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CraigB wrote:
I'm going to answer my own question....having actually read the hummy.tv site now Embarassed I'm going to order a Humax!

A helpful toppy-like community actively developing and supporting each other, clear instructions on upgrading to a 2Tb drive, and a web scheduling interface already available/developed.

(and there is at least discussion in their forums on a 14day EPG feed, so there is hope of that for the future!)

Craig


Same here, the HDR T2 does everything I'd want from a HiDef PVR, and mixes well with XBMC which we already have installed on the HTPC and laptops and PCs around the house.

One Toppy and Unslung SLUG will soon be up for sale.

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rjavery
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:23 pm Reply with quote
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Rich_Enduro wrote:
just wondering what those of you have done who have opted for a freeview HD box? the Humax seems like the top choice but is it? finding the toppy was a complete fluke and i purchased on the strength of online recommendations, so is there any other secrets i should know about? i loved the fact the toppy could install taps but is there anything as flexible available in the UK with HD?


I have just seen this Echostar HDT-610R is coming to the market. Aren't too sure of the details except it is skinny, only a 500GB drive but it does have ethernet for the new Freeview Broadband stuff coming along the line.

Might be worth finding out about.

Rich

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birdman
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 1:18 am Reply with quote
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rjavery wrote:
I have just seen this Echostar HDT-610R is coming to the market. Aren't too sure of the details except it is skinny, only a 500GB drive but it does have ethernet for the new Freeview Broadband stuff coming along the line.
A network connexion is a requirement to be able to use the Freeview HD logo, IIRC.

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underquark
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 1:40 am Reply with quote
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The Echostar box (technically a box, I suppose, even though it's only 14mm thick) is listed on Amazon as being out end this month.

I note it has an external power supply, as do a few things these days. Scope for someone to manufacture a single power supply for several devices?

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Bizman
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:51 am Reply with quote
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underquark wrote:
Scope for someone to manufacture a single power supply for several devices?
There was a move to get this to happen so that the PSUs could be re-cycled. Doubt if manufacturers will take any notice though.

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ryclark
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:31 am Reply with quote
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Provided, of course, that they all run off the same voltage. There is nothing stopping anyone buying a thirdparty higher current PSU and then using a DC cable splitter that can easily be bought online. I often do this for CCTV systems.

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rjavery
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:15 pm Reply with quote
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Edited to remove duplicate post - sorry.


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