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R2-D2
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:39 am Reply with quote
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TimerCheckGUI will present a (scrollable) list of timers that have corrupt service data (press Exit to quit once you've absorbed the info). The firmware service data routines are used so this should work on any Toppy model, although I have a feeling the corruption may be related to the model's specific flash layout and so problems in the service data may only crop up on the TF5800.

As well as the list of timers, it also logs when it was run and more detailed results of the scan to TimerCheckGUI.log. This will build up each time you run it, providing some useful history.

My TF5800 and TF5810 have no problems at the moment, but on the TF5800 I think that's due to the way I'm using MyStuff.

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SonicLife
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:25 pm Reply with quote
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Just tried this, no problems found currently.

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R2-D2
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:07 pm Reply with quote
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My theory is that people with a lot of timers that require MyStuff to remove padding will experience this a lot more than those who don't. This used to happen an awful lot for everyone in the days before merged recordings, since consecutive recordings on the same channel would always have padding removed, but MyStuff would attempt to set them with varying levels of padding first.

I'm expecting that people who have reported lots of failures when trying to chase play should be seeing timer errors quite often...

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Anthony
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:27 pm Reply with quote
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Will give it a go and feedback results.

Many thanks

Anthony
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Andy K
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:50 pm Reply with quote
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excellent Very Happy
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Anthony
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:22 pm Reply with quote
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Have just checked and have 3 corrupt timers showing in the GUI.

Interestly in all 3 instances I also have a timer setup to record the next programme on the same channel. Padding (2 mins) is still present at end of the corrupt timer and at the being of the next timer.

Timer details as follows

LCN 36 22/12 12:13 - 13:17 - Corrupt timer
LCN 36 22/12 13:13 - 14:17 - Next timer

* no other timers scheduled for 22/12

LCN 36 23/12 11:58 - 13:02 - Corrupt timer
LCN 36 23/12 12:58 - 14:02 - Next timer

* no other timers scheduled for 23/12

LCN 36 24/12 11:58 - 13:02 - Corrupt timer
LCN 36 24/12 12:58 - 14:02 - Next timer

There seems to be a pattern forming here........

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R2-D2
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:26 pm Reply with quote
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Anthony wrote:
Have just checked and have 3 corrupt timers showing in the GUI.
Can you post the TimerCheckGUI.log, too?

What I'm most interested in is when the corruption first happens to a timer, although unless you run it really regularly that may not be easy to decide. Once it's corrupt it will probably stay that way, although it may change in corruption.

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Anthony
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:39 pm Reply with quote
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Log file content as requested.

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- 2008-12-19 17:30:12 (0d 1h 10m 25s) -
8) tnr=3 sat=0 net=233a ts=100c svc=3280 Mon 22 Dec 12:13 64m 36 FIVER Police Interceptors.rec
-> tnr=3 sat=0 net=233a ts=3002 svc=3280
10) tnr=3 sat=0 net=233a ts=100c svc=3280 Tue 23 Dec 11:58 64m 36 FIVER Police Interceptors.rec
-> tnr=3 sat=0 net=233a ts=3002 svc=3280
14) tnr=3 sat=0 net=233a ts=100c svc=3280 Wed 24 Dec 11:58 64m 36 FIVER Police Interceptors.rec
-> tnr=3 sat=0 net=233a ts=3002 svc=3280

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R2-D2
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:57 pm Reply with quote
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Ta! I suppose if it gave the option to fix the broken bits then we might see the first time the corruption occurs a bit quicker...

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Anthony
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:00 pm Reply with quote
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Sound logical to me
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SonicLife
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:31 pm Reply with quote
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R2-D2 wrote:
I'm expecting that people who have reported lots of failures when trying to chase play should be seeing timer errors quite often...
As one of those people I am interested in trying to help get to the bottom of this, so how often should we run this?

Would an version that sits in the background be worthwhile if you don't get hit soon?

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R2-D2
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:50 pm Reply with quote
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SonicLife wrote:
Would an version that sits in the background be worthwhile if you don't get hit soon?
I'm hoping the results from people who are being badly hit by this might offers some hints as to where to attach a more automated check. And I'd say you can judge how often to run it by the change in number of errors. Or you could try more systematic testing by doing things to make MyStuff try out lots more variations in padding (set F3 to Yes, G7 to No, and set lots of combinations of consecutive timers).

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Andy K
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:01 pm Reply with quote
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can't you do a version to stick in autostart ?

Will say run after 4 mins of being on, and if a NEW problem is found puts up an on screen message to notify you to check the log
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glenmcfar
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:17 pm Reply with quote
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'Success - no bad timers found'

Thought I might be a candidate for this - I have merging turned off.
Saying that, I don't really see many problems in THIS department.

Glen.

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Happily no errors - 89 timers and 20 series links.

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