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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:58 pm Reply with quote
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That isn't the fsCheck report; it is just a display of the file header.

To run fsCheck, use the remote and
1) > (between << and >>)
2) Archive
3) << (to display Programfiles)
4) Scroll down to Utilities and press OK
5) Scroll down to fsCheck.tap (may be out of sight) and press OK
6) After exiting fsCheck ( using one of the write results to disk options) use TM Display| fsCheck and paste the output into this thread

Geoff

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macmac
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:03 pm Reply with quote
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Here's the report you requested: (Howzzz that?)

Quote:
Contents of \ProgramFiles\Logs\fsCheck_2019-07-28_15-48.log
-----------------------------------------------------------
Code:

File System Analysis
--------------------
Generated by  fsCheck 1.5  on  28/07/2019 15:48


VERDICT: The file system appears  GOOD

  Number of folders = 98
  Number of files   = 8453
  DataFiles summary = 965 recordings  ( folders: 71, other: 2 )
  Capacity          = 932 GB  (5 GB free)

ISSUES
------
  Number of corrupted file entries = 1
  Number of overfull folders       = 1     (Fix may require TopfHDRW)
  Number of unusual practices      = 3

  /MyInfo Log.txt
    >>> Warning: Not normally present in __ROOT__
        The root folder should normally only contain the three reserved folder names
        (DataFiles, MP3 and ProgramFiles).
        If not intentional, this may be due to a user transfer into the wrong target
        folder or by a corrupted file system.
        To Fix: Delete or move into the correct reserved folder.

  /EPG.tmp
    >>> Warning: Not normally present in __ROOT__

  /Settings
    >>> Warning: Not normally present in __ROOT__

  /DataFiles/__temprec__.ts
    >>> File currently being modified by Time Shifting (you can ignore this).

  /DataFiles/Saved/How Things Work-Gibson/Lenses.rec
    >>> The name contains invalid characters.
        This may be an indication of corruption.
        Note:   It is unlikely that this file can be deleted directly from a remote
                computer.
        To Fix: Try using a pc program, or the remote control, to rename the file to
                something that is valid.
        If successful, the file can then be accessed and/or deleted.
         H o w   T h i n g s   W o r k - G i b s o n2F L e
         n s e s . r e c

  /ProgramFiles/Settings/MyStuff
    >>> This folder contains more than 4096 entries.
        Many taps can only process the first 4096 entries in a folder.
        To Fix: Try renaming files at, or near, the bottom of the folder into a new
        folder.
        (Renaming or deleting from top of folder will be slooow!)

DISK GEOMETRY
-------------
  Total Sectors       = 1953525168  (932 GB)
  Number of Clusters  = 129887
  Sectors Per Cluster = 15040
  Sectors used by FAT = 762

DISK USAGE
----------
  Number of folders   = 98
  Number of files     = 8453
  Capacity            = 932 GB
  Free space in FAT   = 5 GB  (731 clusters)
  Computed free space = 5 GB  (731 clusters)

SMART DATA
----------
  HDDModel:  SAMSUNG HD103UJ
  Firmware:  1AA01113
  HDDSerial: S13PJ90S207246
  AAM:       Supported  (Mode 1/4: Off)
  APM:       Supported  (Mode 1/5: Off / Maximum performance)
  Smart:     Disabled (To enable, use keypad 3 in HDDinfo tap)

PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
----------------------
  Dynamic Memory Avail= 10534 KB
  Amount Used         =  1244 KB
  - for Analysis      =  1092 KB
  - for Display       =   151 KB
  Time Taken          = 30920 ms

*** END OF REPORT ***

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:02 pm Reply with quote
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The report shows several issues that indicate corruption has occurred.

1) A file in the \ProgramFiles folder (MyIngo Log.txt)
2) Files in the top level root folder (EPG.tmp, Settings folder)
3) Invalid characters in a file name (possibly not an issue unless you try to copy the file to a pc)

Additionally (but not a corruption)
4) The /ProgramFiles/Settings/MyStuff folder contains more than 4096 files (4096 is the maximum number of files that a folder should contain)

The MyStuff folder contains so many entries because there was a bug in MS 6.4 that meant it didn't clean up backup files.
I'm guessing that when you used GCBMyStuffInstaller, you didn't allow it to clean up these backups (because it said it would take a long time).

There are two ways to clean up this folder, a clean way and a dirty way.
The clean way is to use the TM Tools |Manage MS backup options to purge the old MS backup files. This will take a long time to do but shouldn't cause any issues (TM deletes files from the bottom of the folder to the top)

The dirty way is to rename the MyStuff folder to MyStuffOLD; create a new MyStuff folder and copy the latest files from MyStuffOLD to MyStuff. The old MyStuff folder can then be deleted (although you will probably have to do this via the native menus). After deleting the folder, you would have to reboot the toppy as the file system is not valid; the toppy is likely to VF&F when the toppy reboots but, hopefully, the file system would be ok after this.

I suggest you bite the bullet and use the clean method (TM| Tool| Manager MS Backups).

Geoff

Note: You could clean up the other issues (1 to 3) but, as these won't cause operational issues, I suggest you just leave them alone.

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macmac
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:43 pm Reply with quote
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Geoff Bacon wrote:
@macmac
...I suggest you bite the bullet and use the clean method (TM| Tool| Manager MS Backups).
Geoff


OK: I 'm doing the 'Clean' method.

Q1: Is its advisable to use the toppy while this is being done (eg: Record/Playback)?
Q2: Can I stop & start the purge?

Many thanks.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:13 pm Reply with quote
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You can use the toppy while TM deletes the files.

I can't remember if I provided a cancel button during this cleanup,
If necessary, cancelling by closing TopManager shouldn't be detrimental

Please be aware that the PC may stop deleting the files when the screen saver kicks in and/or the pc hibernates i.e. you may have to move the mouse occasionally and/or use the pc.


Geoff

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+EvEzPfUUuZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; PruneEPG 1.0; fsSave 1.1; QuickJump 1.72; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Bookmark 3.0; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MHEG On/Off A3;
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macmac
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:54 pm Reply with quote
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Geoff Bacon wrote:
You can use the toppy while TM deletes the files.

I can't remember if I provided a cancel button during this cleanup,
If necessary, cancelling by closing TopManager shouldn't be detrimental

Please be aware that the PC may stop deleting the files when the screen saver kicks in and/or the pc hibernates i.e. you may have to move the mouse occasionally and/or use the pc.
Geoff

OK Geoff.
It's done, took about 15hrs!
It's now showing: 52GB (6%) of space / 29 hrs available for recording.

I tried using my very old Pentium 4 W7 PC,
but it was showing a lot of 'unable to delete...' red warnings.
So I went back to my main PC.

BTW: What are these BU files, BU's of?

Also: Can (do I need to) I do this purge on my 5810?
Does it have the same 'buildup' problem?

And many thanks for your (and everyone else's) help!

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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:14 pm Reply with quote
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Assuming you're running MyStuff 6.4 on your 5810, then yes, there will be a build-up of backup files.

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macmac
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:11 pm Reply with quote
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ccs wrote:
Assuming you're running MyStuff 6.4 on your 5810, then yes, there will be a build-up of backup files.

Currently, my 5810 appears to be running: MyStuff 6.4

So I've just looked for the 'fsCheck' category,
at: Tools\Analyze\ProgramFiles\
and elsewhere, and it's not there.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:13 pm Reply with quote
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As CCS says, if you are running 6.4 on your 5810, it will suffer the same problem (you get at least one file per day (possibly up to 5, I can't remember). 6.4. never cleans these up.

Suggest you upgrade it to MS 6.6 with GCBMyStuff Installer. Also suggest that you use TM to clean up the files (before or after running the installer) rather than letting the installer do it.

[edit] The installer will add the fsCheck tap [/edit]
Geoff


Last edited by Geoff Bacon on Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:14 pm; edited 1 time in total

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TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; PruneEPG 1.0; fsSave 1.1; QuickJump 1.72; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Bookmark 3.0; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MHEG On/Off A3;
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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:13 pm Reply with quote
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fsCheck is a TAP; you'll probably find it in the Utilities folder.

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