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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:35 pm Reply with quote
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@Tabs

The disk is probably ok to use - the 6 "Pending Current Sectors" mean that the controller has detected 6 bad areas on the disk but has not yet remapped them onto spare "good" sectors. These will remain pending until the controller successfully reads the contents (the Pending count will reduce) ,or the contents are overwritten (Pending count reduces and/or Mapped Count increases) or decides they are rubbish.

Suggest you use the disk but monitor the count (you don't want it increasing significantly).

Having said that, disks sometimes show no errors but still cause problems.

Geoff

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Grand Dizzy
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:38 pm Reply with quote
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Here's my fscheck log:

Code:

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File System Analysis
--------------------
Generated by  fsCheck 1.5  on  19/09/2018 15:36


VERDICT: The file system appears  GOOD

  Number of folders = 85
  Number of files   = 1503
  DataFiles summary = 1039 recordings  ( folders: 64, other: 2 )
  Capacity          = 932 GB  (39 GB free)

ISSUES
------
  Number of corrupted file entries = 1

  /DataFiles/
    >>> The name contains invalid characters.
        This may be an indication of corruption.
        Note:   It is unlikely that this file can be deleted directly from a remote
                computer.
        To Fix: Try using a pc program, or the remote control, to rename the file to
                something that is valid.
        If successful, the file can then be accessed and/or deleted.

DISK GEOMETRY
-------------
  Total Sectors       = 1953525168  (932 GB)
  Number of Clusters  = 129887
  Sectors Per Cluster = 15040
  Sectors used by FAT = 762

DISK USAGE
----------
  Number of folders   = 85
  Number of files     = 1503
  Capacity            = 932 GB
  Free space in FAT   = 39 GB  (5441 clusters)
  Computed free space = 39 GB  (5441 clusters)

SMART DATA
----------
  HDDModel:  WDC WD10EZRX-00A3KB0
  Firmware:  01.01A01
  HDDSerial: WD-WCC4J3XP85C5
  AAM:       Not supported
  APM:       Not supported
  Smart:     Enabled, AutoSave On, Tests passed

  Attr  Description                Value Worst  Thr        Raw  Flags
  0x01  Raw Read Error Rate          200   200   51          1  0x2f wpr_os
  0x03  Spin Up Time                 135   134   21       4216  0x27 wp__os
  0x04  Start/Stop Count              98    98   ..       2907  0x32 ___cos
  0x05  Reallocated Sector Count     190   190  140        457  0x33 w__cos
  0x07  Seek Error Rate              200   200   ..          1  0x2e _pr_os
  0x09  Power On Hours Count          70    70   ..      21906  0x32 ___cos
  0x0a  Spin Retry Count             100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0b  Calibration Retry Count      100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0c  Power Cycle Count             98    98   ..       2866  0x32 ___cos
  0xc0  Power-Off Retract Count      200   200   ..        209  0x32 ___cos
  0xc1  Load Cycle Count             196   196   ..      14892  0x32 ___cos
  0xc2  Device Temperature           105    88   ..         38  0x22 ____os
  0xc4  Reallocated Event Count      177   177   ..         23  0x32 ___cos
  0xc5  Current Pending Sector       200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc6  Uncorrectable Sector Count   200   200   ..          0  0x30 ___c_s
  0xc7  UDMA CRC Error Count         200   103   ..       3605  0x32 ___cos
  0xc8  Write Error Rate             200   200   ..          0  0x08 __r___

An interpretation of the SMART data:
------------------------------------
        Acronis Health Indicator = 23 %
  The non-zero Raw Read Error Rate can be ignored (assuming no other failure
  indications).
  The Reallocated Sector Count, a critical attribute, shows that 457 sectors have been
  successfully remapped.
  The non-zero Seek Error Rate can be ignored (assuming no other failure
  indications).
  The Reallocated Event Count, a critical attribute, shows that 23 remappings have
  been attempted.
  (number of failed remappings = 23)

PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
----------------------
  Dynamic Memory Avail= 20379 KB
  Amount Used         =   363 KB
  - for Analysis      =   212 KB
  - for Display       =   151 KB
  Time Taken          = 29510 ms

*** END OF REPORT ***
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:01 pm Reply with quote
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@Grand Dizzy

Your toppy problems appear to be disk related and the report indicates that it needs to be replaced. If you want any of the recordings on it, you need to copy these onto a new disk and/or the pc (the sooner the better)

Suggest you also use the TopManager| Snapshot| Take mechanism to preserve the MyStuff data files

Geoff

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Grand Dizzy
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:30 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks so much for your help, Geoff! Smile

As you suggested, I'm going to "evacuate" all the recordings from the hard drive, and use Topmanager to take a Snapshot.

Once I get a new drive in there, what do you think would be the best procedure to go about installing everything, and re-integrating the MyStuff data files?

Oh, also, buying a new drive, are there any particular specs I'll need? I already have a SATA converter in there, so it will be SATA.
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:59 pm Reply with quote
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@Grand Dizzy

I suggest you copy your files to the pc using TopfHDRW. If you have enough room on the pc, I think you can just copy the DataFiles folder and it will copy the folder, the recordings and any sub folders (if you don't have enough room, you will have to copy subsets of the files)
TopfHDRW doesn't work well on files in ProgramFiles so you need to use TM "Snapshot| Take" for that.
When you get the new disk (ask andyfras for advice), format it in the toppy then connect it to the pc and use TopfHDRW to copy the DataFiles folder (or recordings) back to the disk.
Put the disk back in the toppy and use TM Snapshot to restore the ProgramFile contents.
If you need any further info, please post in your original thread

Geoff

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 am Reply with quote
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From Poppa, fsCheck as requested:

Code:

File System Analysis
--------------------
Generated by  fsCheck 1.5  on  06/11/2018 10:46


VERDICT: The file system appears  GOOD

  Number of folders = 23
  Number of files   = 271
  DataFiles summary = 16 recordings  ( folders: 0, other: 2 )
  Capacity          = 466 GB  (449 GB free)

  No issues found

  /DataFiles/__temprec__.ts
    >>> File currently being modified by Time Shifting (you can ignore this).

DISK GEOMETRY
-------------
  Total Sectors       = 976773168  (466 GB)
  Number of Clusters  = 129889
  Sectors Per Cluster = 7520
  Sectors used by FAT = 762

DISK USAGE
----------
  Number of folders   = 23
  Number of files     = 271
  Capacity            = 466 GB
  Free space in FAT   = 449 GB  (125182 clusters)
  Computed free space = 449 GB  (125182 clusters)

SMART DATA
----------
  HDDModel:  WDC WD5000AVJB-63J1A0
  Firmware:  05.04E05
  HDDSerial: WD-WCASY3096870
  AAM:       Supported  (Mode 4/4: Silent)
  APM:       Not supported
  Smart:     Enabled, AutoSave On, Tests passed

  Attr  Description                Value Worst  Thr        Raw  Flags
  0x01  Raw Read Error Rate          194   194   51      36888  0x2f wpr_os
  0x03  Spin Up Time                 166   160   21       4675  0x27 wp__os
  0x04  Start/Stop Count              99    99   ..       1977  0x32 ___cos
  0x05  Reallocated Sector Count     200   200  140          0  0x33 w__cos
  0x07  Seek Error Rate              200   200   ..          0  0x2e _pr_os
  0x09  Power On Hours Count           3     3   ..      71123  0x32 ___cos
  0x0a  Spin Retry Count             100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0b  Calibration Retry Count      100   100   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0x0c  Power Cycle Count             99    99   ..       1018  0x32 ___cos
  0xc0  Power-Off Retract Count      200   200   ..        286  0x32 ___cos
  0xc1  Load Cycle Count             200   200   ..       1968  0x32 ___cos
  0xc2  Device Temperature            88    82   ..         59  0x22 ____os
  0xc4  Reallocated Event Count      200   200   ..          0  0x32 ___cos
  0xc5  Current Pending Sector       183   183   ..       1463  0x32 ___cos
  0xc6  Uncorrectable Sector Count   100   253   ..          0  0x30 ___c_s
  0xc7  UDMA CRC Error Count         200   200   ..         14  0x32 ___cos
  0xc8  Write Error Rate             100   253   ..          0  0x08 __r___

An interpretation of the SMART data:
------------------------------------
        Acronis Health Indicator = 60 %
  The non-zero Raw Read Error Rate can be ignored (assuming no other failure
  indications).
  The Power On Hours Count has 3% of the design life remaining
  While the disk temperature is now 59°C, it has been as high as 65°C.
  The Current Pending Sector, a critical attribute, shows that 1463 sectors are
  waiting to be remapped.

PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
----------------------
  Dynamic Memory Avail=  6194 KB
  Amount Used         =   219 KB
  - for Analysis      =    68 KB
  - for Display       =   151 KB
  Time Taken          =  1520 ms

*** END OF REPORT ***

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:18 pm Reply with quote
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@Poppa

The disk is quite empty now.
I'm not quite sure what the "other:2" means in DataFiles (although it may relate to deleted files in MyStuff which are in it's waste basket).

The disk is at the end of it's design life (3% remaining) - it is only designed to spin for about 73500 hours and it is now reaching that point.
The low start/stop count means that the toppy (or computer) using it has been running almost continually - you should be using the menu option in MyStuff to automatically shut the toppy down overnight.
There are 1463 sect
ors waiting to be remapped - this shows that the drive is struggling to read these sectors. As the disk is now relatively empty, I would expect these sectors to be mapped to good sectors when they are next written.

You should consider changing the disk. However, as you don't have a large number of recordings to lose, you might prefer to just use it knowing that at some point you will need to replace it. If you are planning to start storing recordings long term then you should replace it (otherwise they will be lost when the disk dies)

Geoff

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:47 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for the translated information Geoff, I've just ordered a Samsung HD105SI, reputedly brand new, from eBay. This drive is one of those listed in the 'Working' SATA list. Now I have to find a compatible IDE - SATA converter, fortunately these too are listed, then I'll just have to find out how to install 'em.


Poppa.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:14 pm Reply with quote
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Ask andyfras about the adapter - he will know those that work in a toppy (not all do) and probably be the cheapest.

Geoff

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:15 pm Reply with quote
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Will do...

Thanks.


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