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macmac
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:32 pm Reply with quote
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My TF5810 PVR is working OK, except for this problem that's just started.

If I open the options window,
(eg: by pressing the [Menu] button, while in any other window)
and then make any changes,
(eg: D1/D2: timer padding, A2: change from channel-name to channel-number, etc,.)
And then press exit.

Those changes appear to be OK.
eg: In the EPG: It now displays the channel-number, instead of the channel-name.
And if I then exit and then reopen the EPG, the change is still OK.

But if I shut down the PVR and then reboot, all those changes have been lost.

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TAPs: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MyStuff 6.4; PcControl B1.3; SecCache (UK) v0.4;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:44 pm Reply with quote
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Not sure from the information you have given.

Are you really running MyStuff 6.4? If so please upgrade to 6.6. ([edit] I've just noticed that sig refers to the 5800[/edit])

Either way, please post your MyInfo Log (use TopManager ! Display MyInfo LOg and paste the results).

Note: I have provided a new version of TopManager in the last couple of weeks so, if you haven't upgraded that then I suggest you do so.

Geoff

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
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macmac
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:36 pm Reply with quote
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Geoff Bacon wrote:
Either way, please post your MyInfo Log (use TopManager ! Display MyInfo LOg and paste the results).
Geoff


Hi Geoff,
Thanks for the info, here's a copy of my 5810's log:

MyInfo B5.6 Logging settings etc on: 2/7/2018 at 14:26

Waiting for other TAPs to load and settle

Ini file found
Starting to record data 61 seconds from boot

System ID: 457
TV Output: Type = PAL, Video = RGB
Reported firmware version: TF-NPT 5.15.09T dated Sep 02 2010
Base firmware version: 5.15.09

Running TAPS:
Slot 0: PcControl B1.3 : Toppy control from PC
Slot 1: MyInfo B5.6 : Displays & records Toppy basic info
Slot 2: EPG2MEI v0.96 : Dumps the EPG data to disk as EPG.mei, with changes since last time in EPG_diff.mei
Slot 3: MyStuff 6.4 : UI Replacement
Slot 4: SecCache (UK) v0.4 : Optimal (UK) section caching to reduce the load on the Toppy
Slot 5: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6 : Provides faster, simpler and more robust EIT data collection, except when playing games
Slot 6: Font Manager 1.0d : Manage TAP Fonts
Slot 7: Extend v1.7 : Uses the Accurate Recording info to extend recordings (safely)
Slot 8: MHEG On/Off A3 : MHEG control
Slots 9 - 15 not used


Installed patch list:- Ab Af Bf Bq C0 Ce Ck Cp Cw De Ec Ef Eg Em Ep Er Es Ev F Fm Gm H He Kt Mh Nf Ot Pc Pe R Ra Rh Rm Rp Rs S Sd Sf Sl Sr Sx Td Te Tf Tp Tq Tt Vr Xw Xl
Firmware MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 modified thus: €

Unparsed line: <¤>
Patch Decode Link - Will explain your patches:
http://www.toppy.org.uk/~simonc/dp.html?p=AbAfBfBqC0CeCkCpCwDeEcEfEgEmEpErEsEvFFmGmHHeKtMhNfOtPcPeRRaRhRmRpRsSSdSfSlSrSxTdTeTfTpTqTtVrXwXl

Time Mode set to Auto
Time Offset set to Auto

Found 38 TV channels and 28 Radio channels
No channel problems detected
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 39 are: 18, 19, 31, 38, 47, 64, 711, 712, 713, 714, 715, 716, 717, 718, 725, 732,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 42 are: 10, 20, 21, 27, 30, 34, 37, 44, 54, 61, 62, 66, 724, 727, 728,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 43 are: 1, 2, 9, 130, 700, 701, 702, 703, 704, 705, 707, 708, 710, 719, 720, 722, 734, 735,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 45 are: 11, 12, 17, 29, 32, 48, 730,
LCNs of programme channels found on Tx Ch 46 are: 3, 4, 5, 6, 13, 14, 15, 24, 28, 33,

Interactive Off
Timeshift Off

Memory - Free: 8 MB, Available: 7 MB
Disk - Total: 466 GB, Free: 23 GB

379 recordings (429 GB) + 0 deleted (0 GB) in 20 folders (+ 4 empty folders)

Time since boot: 0:0:1 (d:h:m)

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TF5810, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009
TAPs: PcControl B1.3; MyInfo B5.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.4; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; MHEG On/Off A3;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 2/7/18

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TAPs: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MyStuff 6.4; PcControl B1.3; SecCache (UK) v0.4;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:08 pm Reply with quote
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Ah - your signature wasn't so far out then.

I suggest you first upgrade TopManager

After the upgrading TopManager, please run it and
1) Tools| Install Files| PcControl.
2) Tools| Manage MyStuff Backup Files and do a Purge/Delete to 10 versions (say).
The Purge will still take a long time but should be much faster than doing it as part of the install.
3) Shutdown TM (only one program can access the toppy at a time)

Then upgrade to MyStuff 6.6 (you can use the "Build Offline MyStuff Installer" package on www,geeceebee.co.uk (not sure if the normal one still works; expect it does but mine does a little more).

As you will have used TM to remove the hundreds of unnecessary MyStuff files (an error in it's logic), it shouldn't matter whether you say Yes or No about cleaning up MS 6.4 files. If you say Yes and didn't clean up first with TM then it will take hours during which time you will think the toppy and installer are stuck!

If necessary, use TM Tool| Check MyStuff and apply any suggested changes.

Give the updated system a go to see if you still have the problem.

Repeat on the 5800 sometime.

Geoff

PS: Suggest you post a new MyInfo Log after you have upgraded.

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
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macmac
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:38 pm Reply with quote
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Hi Geoff,
Thanks again for the info.
So I'm doing step-3 (Purge/Delete), it's chugging away.

So what does Purge/Delete do, and why do I need to do it?
Thanks

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TAPs: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MyStuff 6.4; PcControl B1.3; SecCache (UK) v0.4;
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YorkshireJumbo
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:10 pm Reply with quote
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Earlier versions of MyStuff kept versions of key files in case of a crash, so that you could go back to a previous version. However, it did not manage these previous versions, so it kept adding new files every day without removing older ones. The purge process gets rid of all but the most recent - 10 I think. Later versions of MyStuff automatically did the purge for you

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:25 pm Reply with quote
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Wot YJ says.

You can stop/restart the TM cleanup i.e. you don't have to do it all at one go.
Note: I didn't provide a Cancel button but I believe that you can just close the program.

Geoff

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
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macmac
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:19 pm Reply with quote
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Geoff Bacon wrote:
...Then upgrade to MyStuff 6.6 (you can use the "Build Offline MyStuff Installer" package on www,geeceebee.co.uk (not sure if the normal one still works; expect it does but mine does a little more).
Geoff


Hi Geoff,
I've done the purge but having problems installing MyStuff.

I'm really confused as to what supposed to be installed here, and exactly how.
And do I unzip or not-unzip etc, etc.

I've tried it several times, zipped & non-unzipped, but either way I get the light blue error message, eg:
'Sorry there was a problem during installation...'

I manually opened the log file: OffLine Installer (built 04-Jul-2018)_log.txt

that says... ---------------------

Log file for TAP INSTALLER
Finished @ 17:09:38 on 04/07/2018

Starting main installation script activities
Line 1: DisplayProgress:Off
Switching progress display off
Line 2: MsgTime:1.5
Line 6: ShowMessage: Setting up configuration and appearance
Setting up configuration and appearance
Line 8: Title:OffLine Installer (built 04-Jul-2018)
Title set to "OffLine Installer (built 04-Jul-2018)"
Line 13: Background=RGB(28,58,103)
Setting main background colour to RGB(28,58,103)
Line 14: TitleText=RGB(230,230,230)
Setting title text colour to RGB(230,230,230)
Line 15: TitleFontSize: 28
Setting title font size to 28
Line 16: ProgressText=RGB(230,230,230)
Setting progress text colour to RGB(230,230,230)
Line 17: ProgressBgd=RGB(28,58,103)
Setting progress background colour to RGB(28,58,103)
Line 18: ProgressFontSize: 12
Setting progress font size to 12
Line 19: ProgressText=RGB(230,230,230)
Setting progress text colour to RGB(230,230,230)
Line 20: ProgressBgd=RGB(28,58,103)
Setting progress background colour to RGB(28,58,103)
Line 21: HelpText=RGB(0,0,0)
Setting help text colour to RGB(0,0,0)
Line 22: HelpBgd=RGB(150,150,250)
Setting help background colour to RGB(150,150,250)
Line 23: HelpFontSize: 11
Setting help font size to 11
Line 26: FileConditional: Setup.exe
Checking to see if "E:\0 - My - Folders\PVR\Updating_MyStuff_2\BuildOffLineMyStuffInstaller20\MyStuffInstaller(OffLine)\Setup.exe" exists
Found E:\0 - My - Folders\PVR\Updating_MyStuff_2\BuildOffLineMyStuffInstaller20\MyStuffInstaller(OffLine)\Setup.exe
Line 39: ShowMessage: Processing and unzipping installation script files
Processing and unzipping installation script files
Line 42: DisplayProgress:Off
Switching progress display off
Line 45: AllowExtraCfg
Allowing extra ".cfg" files
Line 47: SelectFinalCleanUp:
Selecting final clean up to remove all downloaded etc files
Error: Extra ".cfg" files expected but not found
Displaying text file: E:\0 - My - Folders\PVR\Updating_MyStuff_2\BuildOffLineMyStuffInstaller20\MyStuffInstaller(OffLine)\Install Error.txt
"Source" subdirectory does not exist
Clearing old configuration etc files

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TAPs: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MyStuff 6.4; PcControl B1.3; SecCache (UK) v0.4;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:43 pm Reply with quote
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You need to download the BuildOfflineMyStuffInstaller zip file onto your pc.

You then need to the locate the zip in your downloads folder (alternatively, if just downloaded with a browser, right click on the downloaded file and select "Open File location").

Click the zip file to show it's contents (it should show BuildOfflineMyStuffInstaller.exe)

Extract this into a subfolder and run it.

The program will create a build kit called MyStuffInstaller(OffLine).zip

Double click this to display it's contents
Extract All and scroll down to Setup.exe

Right click Setup.exe and Select Properties
Select the Compatibility tab
Adjust so that it runs for Windows XP Service Pack 3

Run Setup.exe
(it worked for me just now but only after I changed the compitability option)


I'll obviously have to look further into what is happening; it used to be much simpler when I wrote it!

Geoff

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
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macmac
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:57 pm Reply with quote
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Geoff Bacon wrote:
You need to download the BuildOfflineMyStuffInstaller zip file onto your pc...
Geoff

Hi Geoff
Still having problems, see my video here:
http://www.ercuk.com/Video/MyStuff_Update.avi

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TAPs: EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MyInfo B5.6; MyStuff 6.4; PcControl B1.3; SecCache (UK) v0.4;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:40 pm Reply with quote
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Nice video.

Just checked Bobd's website and found not accessible so have sent him an email (I wsa trying to see if it was still available and also what files the pukka install kit would download).

Have you tried doing a full install (including firmware)?; just in case there is something in there that I am omitting when selecting option 2.

Geoff

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:14 pm Reply with quote
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Just heard back from BobD. He says that he hasn't done anything so I suspect the original MyStuff installer is not working because Nigel has moved the site to a different server (BobD has sent an email to Nigel).

Geoff

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:40 pm Reply with quote
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I think the offline installer will work ok if you do the firmware + MyStuff (option 1); I'm fighting with EMJB's installer scripts for option 2 (the scripts are very fussy about formatting and I can't see why it is objecting)

Geoff

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:45 am Reply with quote
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For anyone who can't understand how complicated it has all become, this is what the MyStuff installer does....

https://forum.toppy.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=197322#197322

The only thing missing is adding the PruneEPG tap to autostart.

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TAPs: EIT Sub v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; Extend v1.7; MyStuff 6.6;
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:37 am Reply with quote
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I've found the problem using option 2: EMJB has used a fixed length buffer for the configuration files and this is too small for the modified script (why didn't he use TStringsLists or a larger buffer?)

I have worked out how to overcome this but I can't implement for a couple of days.

Option 1 will work without problems.

Geoff

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TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
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