Click here to go to the forum index Click here for the home page
 
Author Message

<  General Toppy discussions  ~  ***IMPORTANT*** Transmitter changes (CO and TM)

Page 1 of 1
Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:25 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4085
***IMPORTANT*** Transmitter changes (ChannelOrganiser and TopManager)

There have been several transmitter changes recently (and more to come).

A few of you have also experienced issues that may or may not be due to these changes (disk corruptions may be due to watching/recording a non-existent channel)

I have uploaded new versions of and FvTxData.tsv and Freeview.dat to the TopManager website.

FvTxData.tsv contains the muxes used by each transmitter
You need this new version of FvTxData.tsv if you normally use ChannelOrganiser to perform scans (CO only allows transmitters listed in this file)

TopManager uses the same FvTvData file but it automatically collects it directly from the TopManager site (it doesn't use the version stored on the toppy)

Failure to use the new version of FvTxData.tsv can lead to problems when scanning doesn't detect any channels on a mux.

Freeview.dat contains details about each viewing channel.

TopManager should automatically pick up the new "Tools| Install Files" script ( do a "Help| Check For Updates" if the EMJB and GCB options are not shown - this will update the script and say "No (Program) Updates"

Note: The next time TM runs after installing FreeView.dat, you may be notified that the FreeView.dat file differs from that on EMJB's site. To prevent this message being displayed each time, just check the box saying you '"I' m not interested in this version of the web file"

I have asked EMJB to host these updated files but we are reliant on his good will as he no longer uses a toppy.

Geoff

_________________
TopManager program
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 17/1/16
?
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
CharlieBoy
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:38 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 136
Thanks Geoff. Very timely as I've spent time today getting ITV3 to work again. Despite having done so successfully (eventually!) I just installed your new FvTxData.tsv and freeview.dat files and then used channel organiser to run a scan on Crystal Palace in case there were any wrinkles I'd missed. CO told me that there was an error in the freeview.dat file (which I hadn't been getting before), saying that LCN33 should have a SvcId of 8361 not 8368. I made the edit and reran CO and it now says "no errors" in freeview.dat.

Not sure of the significance of this - I assume the 8368 Id doesn't throw an error for your transmitter?

Regards
Charlie

_________________
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -FmSy+UUu
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; MyInfo B5.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MHEG On/Off A3; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; Deepletterbox 2.44; PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6; (StartCh); (fsSave 1.1);
Sig generated by MyInfo on 14/4/18
?
View user's profile Send private message
jimi
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:41 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 103
Geoff
Do you know if there's any changes in Scotland? I'm not at home at present so can't update anything

_________________
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+Pe
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; Extend v1.7; EPG2MEI v0.96; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; Font Manager 1.0d; MHEG On/Off A3; (MyInfo B5.6); PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6;
Sig generated by TopManager/PcControl on 01/05/18
View user's profile Send private message 5800
meadfoot
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:37 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 250
@jimi

Late summer for Scotland

Quote:
Late 2018 - Scotland only - subject to Ofcom approval: BBC Scotland TV channel to launch in Scotland, where BBC Four SD would move to the bottom of the Entertainment section of the EPG under current proposals so that BBC Scotland TV has a prominent slot. BBC Scotland HD would be available from 7pm, with CBBC HD closing two hours early north of the border only.


https://www.a516digital.com/p/freeview-updates.html

_________________
Sutton Coldfield TX
TF5800, IA On, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -SyXl+WfZ
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.6; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; Bookmark 3.0; MyInfo B5.6; TF5000 Display v1.53; UK Subtitle 1.9; Font Manager 1.0d;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 2/7/13


'I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand' Confucius
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
ccs
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:58 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 2448
I assume these 2 files are currently only available if you use TM?

_________________
TF5810, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -FmXl+CtEzIScVdZ
TAPs: EIT Sub v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; Extend v1.7; MyStuff 6.6;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 20/10/14
ccsx
View user's profile Send private message
jimi
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:22 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 103
meadfoot wrote:
@jimi

Late summer for Scotland

Quote:
Late 2018 - Scotland only - subject to Ofcom approval: BBC Scotland TV channel to launch in Scotland, where BBC Four SD would move to the bottom of the Entertainment section of the EPG under current proposals so that BBC Scotland TV has a prominent slot. BBC Scotland HD would be available from 7pm, with CBBC HD closing two hours early north of the border only.


https://www.a516digital.com/p/freeview-updates.html

Cheers
Looks like I have time to get prepared Very Happy

_________________
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy+Pe
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; Extend v1.7; EPG2MEI v0.96; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; Font Manager 1.0d; MHEG On/Off A3; (MyInfo B5.6); PruneEPG 1.0; MyStuff 6.6;
Sig generated by TopManager/PcControl on 01/05/18
View user's profile Send private message 5800
Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:02 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4085
@ccs:
EMJB has confirmed that he has uploaded the files to the folder associated with his ChannelOrganiser tap (Many thanks) i.e. you can get them from where you used to get them.

@jimi:
Don't know offhand how individuals will be affected but the FvTxData file contains records that should cope with proposed changes until Dec 2019 (future changes have a date associated with them; changes in the near future will have an exact date whereas later ones will indicate a a range when the work is scheduled e.g. Jan-Apr19) i.e. look in the file and/or run Co/TM( but don't perform the scan if you don't need to).

@CharlieBoy
FreeView didn't show any errors running on the Mendip transmitter.
Some channels have different SVCids on different transmitters and in this case 33 corresponds to ITV+1. I see this has several regional variants (RRCs). Ether edit the file like you have or change the item to set the SVCid to -1 for ""don't care" (you would probably need to remove the RRC entries if you do this).

@all
The main thing is that you load the new files now so that you don't hit issues when you do need to do a rescan.

Geoff

_________________
TopManager program
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 17/1/16
?
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
ccs
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:48 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 2448
Cheers !

_________________
TF5810, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -FmXl+CtEzIScVdZ
TAPs: EIT Sub v0.6; EPG2MEI v0.96; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; MyInfo B5.6; SecCache (UK) v0.4; Extend v1.7; MyStuff 6.6;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 20/10/14
ccsx
View user's profile Send private message
Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:59 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4085
I've changed LCN=33 to use SvcId = 8361

This only applies if you download the GCB version.

Geoff

_________________
TopManager program
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 17/1/16
?
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:20 pm Reply with quote
Frequent contributor Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4085
I've just added a new "ChannelOrganiser Data Files" page to my TopManager site.

This will allow those who don't use TopManager to manually download updated versions of Freeview.dat and FvTxData.tsv

Geoff

_________________
TopManager program
TF5800, TS On, F/W: MS6 Recommended F/W 12/9/2009 -Sy
TAPs: PcControl B1.4; StopExit v1.01; EPG2MEI v0.96; QuickJump 1.72; MyStuff 6.6; Font Manager 1.0d; Extend v1.7; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; MHEG On/Off A3; MyInfo B5.6; WSSkiller V2.12d; CrashTrace v0.4; fsSave 1.1; PruneEPG 1.0;
Sig generated by MyInfo on 17/1/16
?
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website

Display posts from previous:  

All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum