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jimi
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:24 pm Reply with quote
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Since the last round of LCN juggling and rescan I'm having a problem tuning in Film4+1 on my 5800.
Tried both Channel Organiser and Topmanager but neither of them can see LCN45.
The thing is that I have LCN45 tuned in on my Samsung TV and it's fine. Anyone got any idea's ?

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Laser
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:30 pm Reply with quote
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I believe Film4+1 has moved to a MUX that can only be picked up by HD-capable equipment, even though it is not HD itself.

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jimi
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:43 pm Reply with quote
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Laser wrote:
I believe Film4+1 has moved to a MUX that can only be picked up by HD-capable equipment, even though it is not HD itself.


Thanks, just followed up on that and it looks like your correct, My local transmitter (Craigkelly) http://www.terrestrialtv.co.uk/dtt.cgi?reg=UK.S.SCO.CRA&by=mux&mux=B&hist=&data=&col=LNTMHC&disp=1&grp=&oair=&agrp=
has it on PSB3 which I assume the Toppy can't receive but my HD TV can Sad makes you wonder how many other channels are going to end up going the same way.

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Bizman
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:22 pm Reply with quote
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It was explained here a few weeks back: http://forum.toppy.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=264630#264630

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jimi
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:17 pm Reply with quote
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Cheers
Just back from 3 weeks offshore so wasn't up to speed on the "muxical" chairs Smile

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MikB
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:27 am Reply with quote
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jimi wrote:
Since the last round of LCN juggling and rescan I'm having a problem tuning in Film4+1 on my 5800.
Tried both Channel Organiser and Topmanager but neither of them can see LCN45.
The thing is that I have LCN45 tuned in on my Samsung TV and it's fine. Anyone got any idea's ?


I don't know what happens for a rescan, I avoid doing them until necessary Smile

But I have LCN45 with a placeholder :-

"Due to changes to the way Film4+1 is broadcast, viewers using a Freeview SD box are no longer able to receive Film4+1.

If you can get HD channels on your receiver already, (such as Channel 4 HAD at 104) you will still be able to get Film4+1. It will be in standard definition on channel 45 in the Freeview EPG, following a retune.

For retuning instructions please go to digital.co.uk/retune. If you cannot get the HD channels, Film4+1 will not be available."

Which explains what has happened, but does not explain what genius thought this up!

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Bizman
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:37 am Reply with quote
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MikB wrote:
I don't know what happens for a rescan, I avoid doing them until necessary Smile

But I have LCN45 with a placeholder :-

"Due to changes to the way Film4+1 is broadcast, viewers using a Freeview SD box are no longer able to receive Film4+1.
When you next get around to doing a rescan it will no longer be there.

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Bizman
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:40 pm Reply with quote
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LCN790 no longer carries the Film4+1 retune message and has been removed.

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