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Salopian
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:36 pm Reply with quote
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I have a toppy which can sit for weeks without being switched on manually.
Does EPG get collected when the toppy turns on for scheduled recordings?
When I am about I use RT2MEI to update the EPG but I thought that when that ran out it would get the EPG off air.
Yesterday I switched on after 4 weeks and found that there was no EPG until the box collected off air. Scheduled recordings hadn't been made for the last 10 days.

Do I need to enable the collection of EPG in the settings of MS?

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:51 pm Reply with quote
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Suggest you use the TopManager "Tools| Check MyStuff" option and post the results.

Normally, EPG info is collected by EPG2MEI whenever the toppy is in use but, as you indicate that you use rt2mei, you may have to do modify something to get that EPG merged with the output from EPG2MEI.

If you are still on MS 6.4 (as suggested by your signature) then suggest you upgrade to MS 6.5 (accept all installer options). Before upgrading, use the "tools| Manage MyStuff backups" to clean up the files (there may be hundreds of them and, while slow, this is much faster than using the MS installer (which could take hours).

Geoff

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juwlz
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:29 pm Reply with quote
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Salopian wrote:
I have a toppy which can sit for weeks without being switched on manually.
Does EPG get collected when the toppy turns on for scheduled recordings?
It might be wise to set MyStuff to do a daily EPG scan. Basically, it's just a watch timer (30 minutes should be plenty), which will switch the Toppy on, and because it's on (and not recording) it'll do an EPG scan. Set it for a time of day (e.g. 5am) where it won't interfere with anything else that might be happening wherever it is.

I can't remember specifically, but R2-D2 definitely wrote EPG2MEI to not interfere with anything important, and I wouldn't mind betting that recording comes under the heading of important Smile.

Julie

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mavison
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:29 pm Reply with quote
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As the 'off-air' EPG only covers 7 (8?) days, if the Toppy has not been on at all for 10 days either manually or to make a recording, then surely there would be no EPG at all - it would all have expired?

I believe you can set MS to wake the Toppy up daily so that the EPG is updated.

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Salopian
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:00 pm Reply with quote
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My sig is wrong. I am on 6.5. There is a search for coronation street so there should be several recordings a week. Therefore the box would have come on to record. Does the EPG not get collected if it is on to record?

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:04 pm Reply with quote
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Yes it does collect EPG when it is recording

As I said in my first post, please post the output of Tools| Check MyStuff

Geoff

PS: check the archive and say whether or not Coronation Street is being recorded for this week.

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Salopian
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:32 am Reply with quote
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MyStuff 6.5 runs automatically at startup. Settings are:-
T1: EPG Source Filename=EPG.mei
K1: Pad Timers at Start (minutes)=3
K2: Pad Timers at End (minutes)=3
<<< Recommendation: Return PrePad and PostPad to their defaults (2 and 6)
Y1: PowerOff Handler=Internal

Recordings are automatically being extended by Extend.tap
Prepad =2
Postpad =6
<<< Mismatched padding values
<<< Recommendation: Set values to those used in MyStuff

Programme Guide information is provided by EPG2MEI.tap (installed)

Note: Obtaining TAP load order from 'MyInfo Log.txt' (assuming it is representative)

MyStuff required patches are present (AbCpDeMhOtReRhSl)

No errors detected in MyStuff favourite files

<<< Failed to retrieve \ProgramFiles\Settings\SDS.ini (no such file)


Coronation Street is set to record this week.

My main concern was the EPG collection when recording. If that happens then it should update many times a week.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:46 am Reply with quote
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You should restore K1 and K2 back to 2 and 6 (these have been chosen because they work best). Alternatively, if you really are stuck on 3 and 3 then you need to edit \ProgramFiles\Settings\Extend.ini to match the values in MS.

Please post \ProgramFiles\Settings\EPG2MEI.ini; it may have excluded some channels. Have you done rescan with TopManager recently? A change to the format of Freeview.dat may mean that channels are excluded but I would have thought that would only exclude some and not all.
You should be running TM v4.8 (uploaded in the last couple of days); this fixes the issue with unwanted excludes and also tells you when EMJB has updated Freeview.dat

You can also check that, when the toppy is on, the native EPG is populated (If your MS options is set so that you don't get to the native guide on a second press of Guide then press >, between << and >>, followed by the Guide button)

Don't forget that it takes about 20 mins for EPG2MEI to populate the MS guide (but, bearing in mind that you are recording CS, this should be more than ample).

Geoff

[edit]Might be a good idea to check your MS poweroff setting (Y1) is set to internal; I think that TM only check for SDS.ini if Y1 is set to SDS (which doesn't appear to be loaded on your toppy otherwise it shouldn't have complained about SDS.ini)[/edit]

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Salopian
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:25 pm Reply with quote
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# File updated by Channel Organiser A3 on 31/3/2010 at 17:46

[Control]
Output=EPG
EuroDST
External=MyStuff
Demangle
MergeExt
UseExtGenre
StripDups
AddExtendedInfo
Debug
DescSeparator=
DescTerminator=



Now the MS Check

MyStuff 6.5 runs automatically at startup. Settings are:-
T1: EPG Source Filename=EPG.mei
K1: Pad Timers at Start (minutes)=2
K2: Pad Timers at End (minutes)=6
Y1: PowerOff Handler=Internal

Recordings are automatically being extended by Extend.tap
Prepad =2
Postpad =6

The padding values in MyStuff.dat and Extend.ini are consistent

Programme Guide information is provided by EPG2MEI.tap (installed)

Note: Obtaining TAP load order from 'MyInfo Log.txt' (assuming it is representative)

MyStuff required patches are present (AbCpDeMhOtReRhSl)

No errors detected in MyStuff favourite files


It seems to be happy now.

Y1 is set to internal

When I switched on the first time for weeks the native epg was starting to populate but there was nothing in the MS EPG.

I will have to see how it gets on the next time we leave it.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:22 pm Reply with quote
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That all looks ok to me.

Suggest you leave the toppy on for about an hour and check the MS EPG is populated (it should populate in about 20 mins if you don't play with the control)

Geoff

[edit]Just checked your signature and see that it includes SDS. This is not needed and removing it from Auto Start will free up memory. You can delete it using the native mechanism, Antares or Altair. Alternatively, you can delete it with TopManager (Connection| Browse; double click Auto Start in left pane, select SDS.tap in right pane and press the delete key (or right click with the mouse) ) [/edit]

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Salopian
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:12 am Reply with quote
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I am still not shure what caused the cessation of recording but I have tidied up the Toppy. I hadn't spotted the Browse function in TopMan so that is a learning plus.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:42 pm Reply with quote
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The Browse function is what I use most in TM. You can also drag and drop files e.g. drag a file from a windows folder (in explorer) into a toppy folder (press F1 or Help in TM for further info).

Geoff

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