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jeffarnold
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:00 pm Reply with quote
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Hi Guys,
Ive had a TF5800 PVR for a while now and like all of us have started to run out of disk space. Im guessing this is the spot we have all been in.
So I figure it makes sense to transfer them to my pc and then off to a DVD.

What a nightmare. So to help anyone else out there who is new to all this kind of thing here are a few hints which will hopefully spare you the pain.

I have tried both Windows and Unix. So far no luck with windows, the version of nero I have keeps crashing during the transcode stage ( so many wasted hours there).
Linux, its not easy but I have finally managed to burn my first working dvd.

Use project-x to edit, remove ads etc.... It can export to m2p. Which you think is fine but its not. This version of mp2 really upsets dvdauthor.

Your next step is to use tovid this produces and mpeg2 file about twice the size of the original one.

Now use dvdauthor to convert to vobs.


Use Qdvdautor to add the vobs you have just made and create a nice menu. Its good for menus but for me seems to crash a lot if I add mpegs. It works fine if I add vobs.

Then use Qdvdauthor to transcode the menu and create and iso image.

Test it to make sure everything is ok.
And any of the dvd burning tools to make a disc. i.e. k3b, growfs etc

1 last handy hint. Do not clip the start of the .rec too close with project -x.
I started off with nice tight editing and found that when it converted the .rec to an m2p it decided to pick the wrong soundtrack so instead of getting the normal track all I finished up with was a commentry for I think blind people and could never get back to the normal audio track.
By leaving a few seconds of intro before the programme I wanted the correct audio track was preserved.

I hope this helps and spares you the baptism of fire Ive had with backing up files from the TF5800 apart from that, I love it.

Good luck.
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birdman
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:35 pm Reply with quote
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jeffarnold wrote:
1 last handy hint. Do not clip the start of the .rec too close with project -x.
I started off with nice tight editing and found that when it converted the .rec to an m2p it decided to pick the wrong soundtrack so instead of getting the normal track all I finished up with was a commentry for I think blind people and could never get back to the normal audio track.
By leaving a few seconds of intro before the programme I wanted the correct audio track was preserved.Good luck.
Project-X lets you specify which audio-track to process (by default you'll get them all anyway, but often/always with the one you want not being the first .mp2 file). If you quickly run it as a command-line only tool you can see the ids for the audio (0x320 and 0x321??). You want the one which is stereo, not the mono one. When running from the GUI you can specify this in the options somewhere. I often have to turn off getting the visually-impaired track as it can cause a program crash (which can be overcome by switching off some logging as well, if you actually want this track).

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jeffarnold
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:00 pm Reply with quote
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Hi,
Thanks I have never looked at project x from cmd line. Ive only seen the gui. There is an audio tab but I did not understand it and so could not see how to select audio..

Thanks Ill take a look at the cmd line.

Jeff.
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cookie365
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:26 pm Reply with quote
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Or easier still - just delete the smaller mp2 file after projectx finishes

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jeffarnold
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:29 pm Reply with quote
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Hi,
You mentioned selecting the audio track from the cmd line.
Would you please explain how ?

I have just run ProjectX from the cmd line and could not see an option.

Thx.

The output is below.

flash:/extra/Program Files/ProjectX_0.90.4.00/ProjectX_Source_0.90.4 # java -jar ProjectX.jar -tom2p -name trs.m2p /extra/media/video/Films/TRS.rec
Reading GUI-Switch...
Reading Help Switch...
Reading Config File Switch...
Start without GUI...
Loading last Config or Standard File...
Loading Language -> 'en'

ProjectX 0.90.4.00/30.03.2006 TEST PROJECT ONLY , User: root


TERMS AND CONDITIONS:
(1) this is a free Java based demux utility.
(2) It is intended for educational purposes only, as a non-commercial test project.
(3) released under the terms of the GNU GPL.
(4) there is NO WARRANTY of any kind attached to this software.
(5) use it at your own risk and for your own education.

Java Environment
19 February 2007 19:22:25 GMT
java.version 1.5.0_10
java.vendor Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.home /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_10/jre
java.vm.version 1.5.0_10-b03
java.vm.vendor Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.vm.name Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
java.class.vers 49.0
java.class.path ProjectX.jar
os.name Linux
os.arch i386
os.version 2.6.13-15.13-smp
ini.file /extra/Program Files/ProjectX_0.90.4.00/ProjectX_Source_0.90.4/X.ini
ext.disk.access disabled or library not found
user.language en
user.name root
user.home /root

quick CL usage:
Note: CL doesn't load the GUI components, except with switch [-gui]
<without options> ...starts the GUI
switches and inputfiles can be in any order

options:
[-ini <path + inifile>] ..use that specified iniFile instead of the standard
[-dvx1] ..create a .d2v ProjectFile on demux
[-dvx2] ..create a .d2v ProjectFile + .ac3.wav (RIFF WAVE Header)
[-dvx3] ..create a .d2v ProjectFile + .mpa.wav (RIFF WAVE Header)
[-dvx4] ..create a .d2v ProjectFile + .ac3.wav + mpa.wav (RIFF WAVE Header)
[-out <path>] ..use that specified directory for output
[-name <filename>] ..use that specified filename for output
[-cut <file>] ..use that text based file as cutpoint list
[-chp <file>] ..use that text based file as chapterpoint list
[-id <tokens>] ..use only these (P)IDs, separated by comma ","
[-gui] ..display the GUI using all given CLI options
[-log] ..write the normal logfile
[-saveini] ..save changes made bei CLI in active .ini
[-split <xxx>] ..split output at xxx MB
[-demux, -tom2p, -topva, -tovdr, -tots, -filter] ..action types

Loading Basic Classes...
Reading CLI Switches...
Checking Commons-Net library access...
Loading AC3 frames...
Starting Collection Process...
preparing collection(s)...
1 %<<< session infos >>>

19 February 2007 19:22:26 o'clock GMT
ProjectX 0.90.4.00 (30.03.2006)

-> working with collection 0

-> save normal log file
-> write all video data
-> write all other data
-> PES stream type disabled: Teletext
-> PVA: check for overlapping on read
-> PVA: strictly specs. for audio streams
-> VOB: determine diff. Cell timelines
-> TS: ignore scrambled packets
-> TS: enhanced search for open packets
-> TS: join file segments (of Dreambox®)
-> TS: generate PMT stream dependent
-> get only enclosed PES/TS packets
-> concatenate different recordings
-> ensure 1st PES-packet start with video
-> generate PCR/SCR from PTS

-> write output files to: '/extra/media/video/Films'

-> Input File 0: '/extra/media/video/Films/TRS.rec' (3,767,844,864 bytes)
-> Filetype is TS (generic PES Container)
-> make a MPG2
-> Service ID 0x104B
-> PMT 0x104B refers to these usable streams:
Video:
PID: 0x258(#1)
Audio:
PID: 0x259(eng)(#2)
PID: 0x25A(eng)(#6)
Teletext:
n/a
Subpict.:
PID: 0x25B(eng_0x10_p1_a1 )

converting DVB MPEG-TS file TRS.rec
!> missing sync. byte @ 0
!> found sync. byte @ 3760
!> PID 0x104B (PMT) (33276 #158) -> ignored
!> PID 0x11 (SDT) (46060 #226) -> ignored
!> PID 0x0 (PAT) (54144 #269) -> ignored
ok> PID 0x258 has PES-ID 0xE0 (MPEG Video) mapped to 0xE0 (54896 #273)
ok> PID 0x259 has PES-ID 0xC0 (MPEG Audio) mapped to 0xC0 (69560 #351)
ok> PID 0x25B has PES-ID 0xBD (private stream 1) (SubID 0x20)-> ignored mapped to 0x7F (1155260 #6126)
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Just
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:15 pm Reply with quote
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I drag the .rec off, convert and trim etc using Streamclip to .mpg. I then load that up using Nero Vision and it's done.

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birdman
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:24 pm Reply with quote
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jeffarnold wrote:
Hi,
You mentioned selecting the audio track from the cmd line.
Would you please explain how ?

I have just run ProjectX from the cmd line and could not see an option.

It's this bit:
Quote:
[-id <tokens>] ..use only these (P)IDs, separated by comma ","

and a bit further on:
Quote:
Video:
PID: 0x258(#1)
Audio:
PID: 0x259(eng)(#2)
PID: 0x25A(eng)(#6)
these are the ids you would use. Now, which of 0x259 and 0x25a you need I'm not sure.

jeffarnold also wrote:

ProjectX 0.90.4.00/30.03.2006 TEST PROJECT ONLY , User: root
Not a good idea to run as root...


Last edited by birdman on Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:34 pm; edited 1 time in total

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malc
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:35 am Reply with quote
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There is of course a guide to making DVDs in the user guide section of this site. It is written round windows, nero, project-x and PVAS.

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birdman wrote:
Note a good idea to run as root...


Note or not ?? Confused

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MikeyP wrote:
birdman wrote:
Note a good idea to run as root...


Note or not ?? Confused
Definitely meant NOT (so will edit it). Not one the spell checker catches Sad.

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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:14 am Reply with quote
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I drag off the .rec
convert to mp2 in ProjectX (yes you can select the audio track in the GUI)
Stick it on a DVD
Play it in my cheapo Eltax DVD player which plays just about anything.

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:14 pm Reply with quote
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I edit and demux the rec files in project-x. I then use ImagoMPEG-muxer (downloaded from Doom9? IIRC) to select the correct audio stream and multiplex (very quick operation) the elementary streams into a VOB file. I then add the VOB to a Nero project to create a DVD. If I use anything other than a VOB in Nero it uses twice the space on the DVD and takes an age to transcode. With VOBs the DVD space used matches the original file size and Nero "transcodes" an hour of video in about 20 minutes on my modest spec PC. I suspect all the "transcode" does to the VOB is split it into the smaller VOBs in the Video_TS folder.
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By Nero do you mean Nero Vision Express (NVE)? If so are you aware that you need to tick smart encoding to get NVE not to recode to the quality level you have as default. AND, you need to edit the mpg and set the audio volume to 100% (right click, properties). The default is 33% volume as you can have 3 audio tracks, so for a home movie recorded sound, backing music, voice over. If you click details when making the DVD it will tell you if smart encoding is 100% (or nearly 100% if you have used NVE to cut adverts).

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:51 am Reply with quote
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Yes I did mean Nero Vision Express. I have version 2.1.2.16 that came with my DVD rewriter. I assume this is an ealier version than yours malc as it doesn't have a smart encoding option to tick and has only two audio tracks in the editor with the volume set to 50%.
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Ah. Could well be that it doesn't have smart encoding then. Smart encoding box should be in the video options, under the drop down box for video type (PAL etc.).

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