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EMJB

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:16 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3621 Location: Maldon Essex

In the rt2mei thread some rather pessimistic views were expressed about the possibility of using the metabroadcast data in a replacement for rt2mei. I found the challenge irresistible, and have adapted rt2mei to download the data for the BBC channels. Not all the mei fields are populated, but I suspect quite a few are unused by MyStuff anyway. The code is a real mess, and I haven't given much thought to how to collect the data for the other channels, but it does seem to work:

and on my Pi takes about one second per channel for 6 days EPG - I think you cannot download much more in one go - need to investigate further. Will try to get access to the other channels next - will be interesting to see what their reaction is!

EMJB

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juwlz

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:22 pm

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Well if nothing else, thanks for the screenshot showing the Hunt vs Lauda programme, which I might otherwise have missed Wink

Note to self: check PSes!

Julie

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Bizman

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:34 pm

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juwlz wrote:

Well if nothing else, thanks for the screenshot showing the Hunt vs Lauda programme, which I might otherwise have missed Wink

Note to self: check PSes!

Julie

Or consult the 'Pick(s) of the Week Topic' - it was in there. Very Happy

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gomezz

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:43 pm

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How can you have missed it given it follows Top Gear? Shocked

Remember there is a new film about their story just come out by director Ron Howard.

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juwlz

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:08 pm

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gomezz wrote:

How can you have missed it given it follows Top Gear?

Well ... normally we would watch that live, but the other half's abroad, so I probably wouldn't have tomorrow.

juwlz

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:09 pm

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Bizman wrote:

Or consult the 'Pick(s) of the Week Topic' - it was in there. Very Happy

Yeah, but I rarely get round to ploughing through it. And once you stop checking the thread, you stop getting update notifications too.

EMJB

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:22 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3621 Location: Maldon Essex

Just to let anyone interested know, I have been given full access to the Atlas database, and now can collect EPG data for nearly 2 weeks on all my channels except "Yesterday". Have implemented summer time correction, and just a few oddities to sort out, notably genres. It is taking around 3 seconds per channel to download and process the data on my Pi.

EMJB

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andyfras

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:57 pm

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Nice work EMJB.

Do you have access to regional channels and is the extended data the same as we're used to with rt2mei? Will it be available to all of us, or just on an individually approved basis?

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EMJB

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:43 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3621 Location: Maldon Essex

andyfras wrote:

Nice work EMJB.

Do you have access to regional channels and is the extended data the same as we're used to with rt2mei? Will it be available to all of us, or just on an individually approved basis?

Yes, the data is regionalised - currently available channels seem to be:

Code:

102.2 Smooth Radio 4seven 5* 5*+1 5USA 5USA +1
95.8 Capital FM Absolute 80s Absolute Radio Al Jazeera English
B4U Movies BBC Alba BBC Asian Network BBC Four BBC London
94.9 BBC News Channel BBC One various BBC Parliament BBC
Radio 1 England BBC Radio 1Xtra BBC Radio 2 BBC Radio 3 BBC
Radio 4 Extra BBC Radio 4 FM BBC Radio 4 LW BBC Radio 5 live
BBC Radio 5 live sports extra BBC Radio 6 Music BBC Radio Cymru
BBC Radio Nan Gaidheal BBC Radio Scotland FM BBC Radio Ulster
BBC Radio Wales BBC Red Button 1 BBC Three BBC Two England
BBC Two HD BBC Two Northern Ireland BBC Two Scotland BBC
Wales BBC World Service BET:BlackEntTV BET:BlackEntTV +1
Bid Bliss Bloomberg TV CBBC CBS Action CBS Drama
CBS Reality CBS Reality +1 CBeebies CITV CNBC UK
CNN Challenge Channel 4 Channel 4 +1 Channel 4 HD
Channel 5 Chart Show TV Choice FM Classic FM Create and
Craft E4 E4 +1 EuroNews FRANCE 24 English Film4
Film4 +1 Flava Food Network Food Network +1 Gems TV
God TV Gold Heart London Heat TV Horror Channel
Horror Channel +1 ITV ITV2 ITV2+1 ITV3 ITV3+1
ITV4 ITV4+1 ITVHD Ideal World Investigation Discovery +1
Jazz FM Kerrang! TV Kiss TV Magic More4 More4 +1
Movies4Men Movies4Men +1 NHK World HD Pick TV Planet Rock
Pop PopGirl Price Drop QVC RT RT HD RTÃ 2FM
RTÃ Radio 1 FM RTÃ RaidiÃ³ na Gaeltachta RTÃ lyric fm S4C
Scuzz Showcase Sky News Smash Hits! Sony SAB
The Active Channel The Box Tiny Pop Travel Channel
True Entertainment True Movies True Movies 2 Vintage TV
Viva World Radio Network Xfm more>movies talkSPORT

most of which can't be received with a terrestrial Toppy. There are afew obvious omissions from the list however (e.g. Yesterday), but these could be problems in my code for extracting the channel list from the Atlas data.

I haven't explicitly broached the subject of more general access, but my application implied I was developing a facility for general use by Topfield owners, and the terms to which I have agreed are centred round it not being a profit--making venture. It seemed sensible to make sure it is technically a goer before getting into licensing/access arguments.

EMJB

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birdman

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:15 am

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EMJB wrote:

I haven't explicitly broached the subject of more general access,

I've just got access too.
It's possible that individual users will be expected to request individual access to the Press Association data.

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EMJB

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:51 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3621 Location: Maldon Essex

I'm now managing to get 13 days' EPG data for all my channels except "Yesterday", with some useful extras such as the "new series" identifiers. MS 6.5 seems to be happy with it. There are still a few minor issues to resolve, but if anyone seriously wants to have a look at it can they please PM me with their email address, and with an undertaking to use it for evaluation purposes only.

EMJB

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ccs

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:54 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 2467

One thing that might temp me to set up a wireless link to the toppy using a Raspberry Pi,

would be if the word "repeat" was shown in the schedules??

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EMJB

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:57 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3621 Location: Maldon Essex

ccs wrote:

One thing that might temp me to set up a wireless link to the toppy using a Raspberry Pi,

would be if the word "repeat" was shown in the schedules??

Many moons ago I modified rt2mei to add "Rpt" to the programme names where relevant. Unfortunately EPG2MEI proceeds to undo this by always using the native EPG name rather than the rt2mei name - I did ask R2-D2 for an option to reverse this, but he declined. As a result, so I don't use EPG2MEI and the MyStuff features that depend on it in order to keep the "Rpt" indications which are so "SWMBO-friendly". "as2mei" will certainly include that option, but it will be useless to users of the current EPG2MEI.

EMJB

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YorkshireJumbo

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:59 pm

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If you turn off the EPG2MEI functionality, don't you lose the chance for the Extend functionality to modify your timers in case of over-running programmes?

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EMJB

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:59 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3621 Location: Maldon Essex

YorkshireJumbo wrote:

If you turn off the EPG2MEI functionality, don't you lose the chance for the Extend functionality to modify your timers in case of over-running programmes?

Seems to work Ok for me - don't remember losing the end of a recording (other than when have to change channels to record something else) for years.

EMJB

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