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juwlz
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:21 pm Reply with quote
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Poppa Mintin wrote:
Poppa Mintin wrote:
OK, so I did a factory reset...
Tried a re-boot but couldn't get past having to do an auto scan (Well could've done a manual I expect... just lazy)

So what don't I understand now ?
Ah... Utilities folder... will try again.
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The crucial missing step appears to have been moving the renamed TAP to Auto Start. Unless you do that, you can't get out of the Menu without doing a full scan.
juwlz wrote:
The installer will have put FastScanGUI in /ProgramFiles/Utilities. Move it to Auto Start.
(Here)

Julie

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:38 pm Reply with quote
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andyfras wrote:
Reboot Toppy, hold down 0 button on the remote until the picture appears.

Press Archive button, << to Program Files, select Autostart, select FastscanGUI.

Allow FastScanGUI to run.

Then run Channel Organiser. Select channels to remove.

Then reboot.


OK, The only way I can re-boot is to unplug Toppy then re-connect.
As I press home the plug I have the remote 0 button pressed, within a couple of feet of Toppy.
Toppy's text display goes from blank, to 'Loading' and then to 'Run'. All this time no 'Signal acknowledge' indicator shows.
There is a blank pause between 'Loading' and 'Run', also with Toppy disconnected the screen is just blue.
As 'Loading' goes off, the screen goes black then 'Run' shows and a second or so after that the picture starts to appear and comprises Toppy's native channel display and a very broken picture arrives a few moments later.
I leave the 0 button pressed all this time, and 'Run' continues to show and the picture starts moving... all still very broken, and the TV just stays like that until I give up, it's been 15 minutes a few times.


I have also, when the picture starts, release the 0 button and pressed the (original) Archive button... no change whatsoever.
I've tried the same thing but this time using the programmed Archive button (List), again nothing.
If I press the remote 'Off' (Standby) button nothing at all happens. Oh... once I've released the 0 button to try other options, the 'Signal acknowledge' indicator is active from then on.
If I press Toppy's front panel On / Off button 'Wait' appears in the display and just stays there, again over 15 minutes.

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:50 pm Reply with quote
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Oh, I'm wrong... 'Wait' does appear from the remote 'Off' but still nothing goes off.

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andyfras
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:55 pm Reply with quote
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I think it's time for more drastic action:

Unplug your Toppy from the mains, remove the cover and disconnect the HDD.

Plug the mains back in.

Once you have a picture, press Menu, select Installation then Factory Settings. Confirm.

Select manual search and tune only these channels 44, 47, 48, 51, 52

If the tuning went OK, disconnect from the mains again and reconnect the HDD.

Plug the mains back in.

If it's all OK, run Channel Organiser.

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:03 am Reply with quote
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juwlz wrote:
The crucial missing step appears to have been moving the renamed TAP to Auto Start. Unless you do that, you can't get out of the Menu without doing a full scan.
juwlz wrote:
The installer will have put FastScanGUI in /ProgramFiles/Utilities. Move it to Auto Start.
Julie
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OK Julie, I found FastScanGui... where you said it would be, and moved it to where you said.


Julie, yes I Did move the file...

Poppa.

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:06 am Reply with quote
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andyfras wrote:
Unplug your Toppy from the mains, remove the cover and disconnect the HDD.


Thanks Andy, a job for tomorrow I think.
Will removing just the power connector from the HDD be sufficient ?
Assuming all goes well, from where should I run CO ? and how ?

Poppa.

PS, that's silly... both connectors are easily accessed... engage brain before asking daft questions ! Put it down to the lateness of the hour.

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juwlz
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:02 am Reply with quote
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Poppa Mintin wrote:
Assuming all goes well, from where should I run CO ? and how ?
It's in /ProgramFiles/Utilities (but you already knew that too) Wink.

To run it, go to the native archive*, press << to get to /ProgramFiles, navigate to Utilities, use the up/down arrow to get to Channel Organiser and press OK.

* With no TAPs running, just press archive.

If MyStuff is running, it will depend on your settings.
  • If you have L8: Display Toppy Archive from MyStuff Archive=Yes (the default), then press Archive twice
  • If you have TimeShifting enabled on the main Toppy menu, press the Play button to bring up the playbar, and then press archive (with any native Toppy overlay on the screen, pressing a button will force that button's native action, bypassing any TAPs)
  • If neither of the above is true, press Info, then Menu, then select the last option on the MyStuff menu (if you start at A1, you can press Up to get to the bottom) to exit MyStuff

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:51 pm Reply with quote
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OK, current state of play...

Did as Andy suggested and removed the HDD from the equation.
Booted up Toppy, and was able to access 'Factory Reset' (Did it)
Did a manual installation using just the Emley Moor channels.
Reconnected HDD, re-booted,.. So far, so good.
Tried running Channel Organiser... Failed.
Used the native Toppy way to remove the detritus.
Went back over Julie's instructions and experimented a bit and finally managed to get CO to work Very Happy
Ok, I see what you mean Julie... Nice n easy...
CO did a reload of all the channels I'd deleted, but I noticed, just from Emley Moor, but I had opted for 'this TX'.
CO then proceeded to offer to remove all the unwanted ones... without having to re-select them. (Did that)
So... Toppy's back how it was plus I know how to access CO.
Next, I checked in folder Program Files/Settings/Logos and found two files:

datlogo.dat_______694 kb
datsmlogo.dat____ 694 kb

So... I (Just) did another re-boot, then waited for the (L) & (S) (Load & Search ?) to complete and tried EPG again...
Back where it all started... No logos !
I get the Channel Names with the little progress bar beneath, but no logo.

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billmars
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:08 pm Reply with quote
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Poppa Mintin wrote:

datlogo.dat_______694 kb
datsmlogo.dat____ 694 kb

Well you obviously realise by colouring the 'dat' part of the file names that they're wrong.

Rename them
logo.dat
smlogo.dat

and all should be well.

As to why they are called 'datlogo.dat' and datsmlogo.dat' is another matter!

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:26 pm Reply with quote
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billmars wrote:
Well you obviously realise by colouring the 'dat' part of the file names that they're wrong.


Actually Bill, no I didn't realise they were wrong... I do try to be accurate when I'm asking for help, I think it matters.
The brown bits are brown because that's how they are in the folder.

Now I'll see what happens when I re-name 'em !
Thanks for your help.

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:36 pm Reply with quote
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Ah... Error Embarassed

The files are actually listed like this:

dat logo.dat_______694 kb
dat smlogo.dat____ 694 kb

(Note the gap... I didn't !)

I tried re-naming the files but I expect you'll know the result was negative.

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billmars
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:54 pm Reply with quote
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Poppa Mintin wrote:
Ah... Error Embarassed

The files are actually listed like this:

dat logo.dat_______694 kb
dat smlogo.dat____ 694 kb

(Note the gap... I didn't !)

I tried re-naming the files but I expect you'll know the result was negative.

Poppa.


Do you mean you couldn't rename them or you renamed them and you still have your 'no logo' problem?

How are you accessing your Topfield?

From what folder did you copy the file names? I'm surprised that the font colour coding copied into the forum message.

And those file names are still wrong!

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Looks like the "red" dat was the icon displayed by TopManager to indicate the type of file.

Was there a logos.lnk file in the same location as the .dat files?

Did you restart MyStuff (or reboot the toppy) after loading the files? (if not, MyStuff won't have detected them)

Did you use TM "Tools|Install Tap| MyStuff Logos" to install them?
If you didn't and you still have problems after rebooting then please try this operation.

Please post your MyStuff Settings (use "Display| MyStuffExportOptions" in TopManager).

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Geoff Bacon wrote:
Looks like the "red" dat was the icon displayed by TopManager to indicate the type of file.
Geoff
So perhaps the file names are correct.

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Poppa Mintin
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:37 pm Reply with quote
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Geoff Bacon wrote:
Looks like the "red" dat was the icon displayed by TopManager to indicate the type of file.

Was there a logos.lnk file in the same location as the .dat files?

Did you restart MyStuff (or reboot the toppy) after loading the files? (if not, MyStuff won't have detected them)

Did you use TM "Tools|Install Tap| MyStuff Logos" to install them?
If you didn't and you still have problems after rebooting then please try this operation.

Please post your MyStuff Settings (use "Display| MyStuffExportOptions" in TopManager).

Geoff



Looks like the "red" dat was the icon displayed by TopManager to indicate the type of file...
Looks like the brown colour I chose to me... Smile

Was there a logos.lnk file? : No, but there was on a previous occasion when there were no x.dat files.
Did you restart MyStuff (or reboot the toppy) after loading the files? : I'd just done a re-boot prior to making the post.
Did you use TM "Tools|Install Tap| MyStuff Logos" to install them? : At one time the x.dat weren't in the folder. Since then I've re-installed MyStuf at least once, maybe as many as three times now, using C:\MyStuff64Installer\SetUp.exe (Unzipped from web download).
Please post your MyStuff Settings :

MyStuff v6.4
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Now & Next/EPG views - General
A1: Large font=Yes
A2: Channel display style=LCN/Name
A3: Display channel logo=Yes
A4: Display genre=Yes
A5: Display episode name=Yes


Now & Next/EPG views - Description Area
B1: Display Now/Now+1/Now+2...=No
B2: Duration style=XX:YY
B3: Progress text style=hm/hm
B4: Progress bar style=Normal
B5: Progress bar colour=Solid
B6: Display 'Starts in...'=Yes
B7: Display icon on Films/Movies=Yes
B8: Display icon on flagged programmes=Yes


Grid EPG/Grid Now & Next
C1: Display progress bars=Yes
C2: Cell style=Rounded
C3: Display MoreProgram indicators in Grid EPG=Yes
C4: Number of channels/font size=10/Small
C5: Number of hours to display in Grid EPG=3 Hrs
C6: Channel to show at top of Grid EPG/Grid Now & Next=Current (M)
C7: Time for left hand edge of Grid EPG=Now - 15m
C8: Style of Now Line in Grid EPG=Full (2)
C9: Transparency of Now Line in Grid EPG=Solid


Single Channel View
D1: Display descriptions for all programmes=Yes
D2: Display extra programmes in 2 columns=Yes


EPG Chain
E1: View on first press of the EPG key=Grid EPG
E2: View on second press of the EPG key=Grid N&N
E3: View on third press of the EPG key=Toppy EPG
E4: View on fourth press of the EPG key=Off


Now & Next
F1: Display extra gap below Now & Next=No
F2: Display Now & Next on channel change=None
F3: Now & Next display duration (seconds)=Til Exit
F4: Now & Next auto display duration (seconds)=1
F5: Number of extra programs on Now & Next=0
F6: Number of extra programs on extended Now & Next=5
F7: Expand Now & Next to display full program information=Yes
F8: Display descriptions for extra programmes=No
F9: Display extra programmes in 2 columns=No


Now & Next Chain
G1: View on first press of the Now & Next key, and on Screensaver=Normal
G2: View on second press of the Now & Next key=Extended
G3: View on third press of the Now & Next key=Off
G4: View on fourth press of the Now & Next key=Off
G5: Activate Now & Next chain from arrow keys=No


Extended Info
H1: Large font on Extended Info=No
H2: Description to show in Extended Info=Normal


Timers
J1: Pad Timers at Start (minutes)=2
J2: Pad Timers at End (minutes)=6
J3: Allow automatic padding removal across all channels=Yes
J4: Split Programme Timer Combine=15 mins
J5: Autofile manually set Film timers to /Films=No
J6: Display results of recording episode at a different time=Yes


Searches
K1: Number of days to search for Text/PowerSearches=14
K2: Adjust manual timers for schedule changes=Yes
K3: Channels to search by default=All
K4: Search PlusOne channels by default=No
K5: AutoFile new Searches by default=No
K6: Show programme name folders in Move To=Yes
K7: Merge back to back timers=No
K8: Retain part watched recordings on Keep Searches=Yes
K9: Type of Search to create on pressing SlowMo=Menu
K10: Type of Search to create on pressing Blue=Power
K11: Offer to record Series on pressing Record=Always
K12: Search validity period=48 weeks


Archive Defaults
L1: Select newest file when sorting by date=Yes
L2: Select most recently played file=Yes
L3: Default Archive view=Recs Date
L4: During use, remember previous Archive list mode=No
L5: When sorting recordings by date, show newest first=No
L6: When sorting timers by date, show earliest first=Yes
L7: Scroll by Day in Timers By Date=No
L8: Display Toppy Archive from MyStuff Archive=No
L9: Quick Delete after % viewed=Never
L10: AutoRewind after % viewed=Never
L11: Automatically show Archive when stopping recordings=No
L12: Searches view to display on Press & Hold Archive activation key=None


Archive Style
M1: Display folders at end of list=No
M2: Hide empty folders=Yes
M3: Hide locked files from other users=Yes
M4: Display scrollbar=Yes
M5: Timer duration style=XX:YY
M6: Recording duration style=XX:YY
M7: Viewed/remaining duration style=hm/hm
M8: Display Description Area=Always
M9: Allow Flat View of recordings=Yes
M10: Display Flag timers=All
M11: Display Excluded timers=All
M12: Logo to display for Series/PowerSearch=Logo


Recycle Bin
N1: Use Recycle Bin=No
N2: AutoDelete period=Never
N3: AutoDelete low disk space=Never
N4: Add available space in Recycle Bin to Archive estimates=No


QuickJumps
P1: Jump in seconds on Red key=-24
P2: Jump in seconds on Green key=128
P3: Jump in seconds on Yellow key=30
P4: Jump in seconds on Blue key=9
P5: Rewind when unpausing playback with Play=15
P6: Also rewind when unpausing playback with Pause=Yes


Keys
Q1: EPG chain activation key=Guide
Q2: Now & Next chain activation key=TvSat
Q3: Archive key=Archive
Q4: Timer key=White
Q5: Archive Description Toggle key=PiP
Q6: Extended Info key=Info
Q7: Resume Playback key=Recall
Q8: Jump To Start key=0
Q9: Jump To Next Episode key=None
Q10: Jump To PrimeTime=None
Q11: Resume/Restart Playback from Archive keys=OK/Play
Q12: Text entry auto advance delay (100 = 1 second)=1000


EPG Data
R1: EPG Source Filename=EPG.mei
R2: EPG Data reload frequency=1hr
R3: Force reload of Searches=No
R4: Display feedback when reloading EPG Data=No
R5: EPG Scan Duration=3 mins
R6: Channel for EPG Scan=BBC ONE
R7: EPG Scan Time=09:30


Screensaver
S1: Screensaver Style=Off
S2: No Options=No Options
S3: Screensaver Delay=60 secs
S4: Live Radio Screensaver Style=Off


General
T1: Exclusive Mode=Extreme
T2: PrimeTime=19:30
T3: Playback stopped functionality=Quick
T4: Action when changing to a channel being recorded=From Start
T5: Continue sequential playback=Yes If Same
T6: Enable AccurateBookmark support=Yes
T7: Suppress Toppy playback and recording roundels=Yes
T8: Display MyStuff volume bar=Yes
T9: AutoMute when EPG or Archive displayed=No


Display
U1: Skin File=andys-sky v4.mcf
U2: Gradient level to apply to skin=None
U3: X Offset to apply to all MyStuff displays=0
U4: Y Offset to apply to all MyStuff displays=0
U5: Y Offset for icons=0
U6: Y Offset for text=0
U7: Display EPG/Archive/Options full screen=Yes
U8: Effect to use when displaying popup boxes=Fade Out


Channel Lists/Favourites/Radio Support
V1: Default Channel List=All Channels
V2: TV Channel List=All TV
V3: Radio Channel List=All Radio


PowerOff
W1: PowerOff Handler=Internal
W2: Enable automatic PowerOff=No
W3: Auto PowerOff Time=04:00
W4: PowerOff after EPG Scan Timer=No
W5: Front Panel text=Full


TAP
Z5: API processing frequency=Never
Z6: Display feedback when processing API requests=No
Z7: Remember last selected option in Options screen=Yes



I hope that covers it... Neutral

Poppa.

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