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gavink

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:27 pm

Regular contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Hampshire

One of my 5800's is networked via a PopcornHour A110 and I transfer files to PC using Filezilla 3.2.2.1.

I was getting approx 1.7-1.8MB/s turbo transfers. A couple of weeks ago it dropped to around 1.2MB/s and now I'm getting around 6-700KB/s with transfers from the 'turbo directory'.

I originally set it up with bellissimo's ToppyPopcorn 1.1 for:
1) ftpd-topfield - Permanent FTP access to the Toppy
2) rt2mei - Download the Radio Times TV Guide daily and copy to the Toppy

None of the settings seem to have changed from those in bellissimo's readme file and transfers to/from the PCH itself are fine.

Does anyone have any suggestions what might be the problem?

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Darucla

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:21 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 1383 Location: Norwich

I find the network sometimes does this for me too. Speed drops. Not often, but occasionally. Try re-booting everything, ie, router, PC, PCH and Topfield.
But you should also try the various USB speed patches from R2-D2, which should bring your turbo speeds to about 2.6 MB/s or better. And the latest version of ToppyPopcorn is 1.3.

gavink

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:30 pm

Regular contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Hampshire

Unfortunately it's persisted despite re-boots of everything.

I'll apply the USB speed patches and see what happens.

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Darucla

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:12 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 1383 Location: Norwich

I don't know that I can really help, although I worry that I should be able to. How close are the various items, and what cable are you using? As I have a couple of items with gigabit ports, I put everything on gigabit switches (quite cheap), with Cat6 cable throughout, with only the internet being fed from a Fast Ethernet port. This does seems to be faster and more stable in terms of the network, but should have no effect on the actual speed from the Topfield to the PCH.
If you have an internal drive, what speed do you get from the Topfield direct to that? And transferring from the PCH to PC? Just trying to see where the problem arises.

gavink

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:11 pm

Regular contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Hampshire

It seems it was a failing network switch.

I've a Netgear 5 port switch under the telly with the PCH/Toppy, an Acer Revo R3610 and a PS3 connected. Transfers to the PCH (4.5 MB/s) and Acer (10-11MB/s) seemed to be reasonable speeds. However transfers from the Acer (4-4.3MB/s) and PCH (300KB/s) were not.

Swapping cables made no difference, but replacing the switch with a spare brings it back to speed, 4.5MB/s to/from the PCH and 10-11MB/s to/from the Acer

I haven't patched the Toppy yet but I tried a transfer with the USB Accelerator TAP ... 2.8-2.9MB/s a nice improvement.

Thanks for the tip and your moral support Darucla. Very Happy

Incidentally, I gather the PCH could go faster with a newer firmware and I should be able to get faster speeds betwen the PCs because it's all supposed to be gigabit capable, but I can't get Windows to accept a gigabit configuration on the NIC of the main PC, it insists on auto-negotiation at 100Mb/s. But as I don't move shed loads of data between the 2 I've just let it be.

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Darucla

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:17 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 1383 Location: Norwich

Glad you've got it back working. I suspect that there aren't a huge number of people in the world using a Topfield and PCH in this way. I only know of about 6.

birdman

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:12 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 1540 Location: Hitchin, HERTS Tx: Sandy Heath

gavink wrote:

and I should be able to get faster speeds betwen the PCs because it's all supposed to be gigabit capable, but I can't get Windows to accept a gigabit configuration on the NIC of the main PC, it insists on auto-negotiation at 100Mb/s.

What is it negotiating with? Your switch? Is that a Gbit one?

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gavink

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:38 pm

Regular contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Hampshire

Yes, it's one of these http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/networking/switches/2-8portswitches/netgear/gs605uk.html

The link from my Vista PC to the switch will only connect at 100Mb/s with Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)

That was the latest appropriate driver last time I looked, I got lost in the realtek sites downloads section just now. Confused

The link between the 2 switches (both GS605's) and the Acer at the other end with Win 7 will make a gigabit connection.

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birdman

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:36 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 1540 Location: Hitchin, HERTS Tx: Sandy Heath

gavink wrote:

That was the latest appropriate driver last time I looked, I got lost in the realtek sites downloads section just now. Confused

The latest on the RealTek site is 6.244 - at least according to a Google cache of the page, although it does seem impossible(?) to get to the real page to do the actual download.

birdman

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:41 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 1540 Location: Hitchin, HERTS Tx: Sandy Heath

Weird - it's now started working - and it's reached 6.246.

It's on this page

gavink

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:46 pm

Regular contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Hampshire

Thanks for that birdman.

I've installed the latest driver, but it still only wants to connect at 100Mb/s ... flippin' thing.

As I did last time, I had a scout around and I see a people with related problems but no obvious solution, other than try the latest drivers. The wisest advice for me to give to myself would seem to be, "if you really can't live with it install another NIC" ... I think I can live with it. Very Happy

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gavink

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:30 pm

Regular contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Hampshire

Quote:

"if you really can't live with it install another NIC" ... I think I can live with it.

Well I finally got feed up with it.

I decided to pep-up the machine with an SSD and Win 7, and even after updating all the drivers, it still wouldn't connect at gigabit speed ... flippin' thing.

So as I was spending some money I put one of these in it http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/network-adapters/gigabit-network-adapters/gigabit-ct-desktop-adapter.html So I now have gigabit speed to the other PCs on the network, of course it doesn't speed up transfers from the Toppys but ohhh ... it does save seconds on PC to PC transfers Laughing

Posted just to round this off in case you came via a search engine, and in that case I can only suggest you try another network card.

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birdman

Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:47 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 1540 Location: Hitchin, HERTS Tx: Sandy Heath

gavink wrote:

I decided to pep-up the machine with an SSD and Win 7, and even after updating all the drivers, it still wouldn't connect at gigabit speed ... flippin' thing.

I've just noticed that I have a Realtek 8168 in my system (though it gets noted in Linux as an 8168B rather than 8168C).
That runs happily at 1Gb/s (in Win7 and Linux).

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