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Grand Dizzy
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:14 pm Reply with quote
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Hi guys, I'm trying to connect the hard drive from an old Toppy (5800) to my PC (Win 7). I want to get the old recordings off it, but not having any luck.

I downloaded TFtools which seems to be the way you do it, but TFtools does not show the toppy drive on the list of drives. (I know the drive is definitely installed in my PC because I can see it with Partition Master.)

Not sure if this has anything to do with it, but when TFtools first loads I get the warning about TFTools not working unless you give it administrator privileges.

Possibly there is also a problem with the drive? The drive seems OK (no strange noises) but I remember whenever I tried to use Altair on that drive it would start copying then fail after a few minutes.

Any advice would be appreciated, thanks Smile
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:33 pm Reply with quote
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I don't know tfTools but it probably won't see the disk if it doesn't have admin privilege (this allows it to do direct read/writes to an unmounted disk).

You probably need to use TopfHDRW

It will need admin privileges but that shouldn't cause any issues.

Failing after a few minutes when copying with Altair may have been an issue with funny characters in the file name (typically a colon ":" but there are others). If you use Antares, this automatically handles these funny characters.

I've also written a program (ToppyDiskMedic) that can process/repair the file structure and allows copying of files. I haven't released TDM (and may never do so) and just provide this as a "send it to me" service.

My advice is that you just try to copy recordings off with TopfHDRW; you can always get back to me if you find that TopfHDRW can't process your disk.

Geoff

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Grand Dizzy
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:47 pm Reply with quote
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Smile Thank you Geoff, excellent information! I will try TopfHDRW, thank you. Smile

Geoff Bacon wrote:
I don't know tfTools but it probably won't see the disk if it doesn't have admin privilege (this allows it to do direct read/writes to an unmounted disk).

You probably need to use TopfHDRW

It will need admin privileges but that shouldn't cause any issues.

Failing after a few minutes when copying with Altair may have been an issue with funny characters in the file name (typically a colon ":" but there are others). If you use Antares, this automatically handles these funny characters.

I've also written a program (ToppyDiskMedic) that can process/repair the file structure and allows copying of files. I haven't released TDM (and may never do so) and just provide this as a "send it to me" service.

My advice is that you just try to copy recordings off with TopfHDRW; you can always get back to me if you find that TopfHDRW can't process your disk.

Geoff
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Grand Dizzy
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:25 am Reply with quote
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Thank you Geoff! TopfHDRW worked perfectly, and it's lightning-fast! Excellent Smile
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MKerton
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:39 pm Reply with quote
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Hi,

Can anyone point me to the TopfHDRW program? I want to transfer some files, but cannot find a link.

Thanks in advance

Michael
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andyfras
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:22 pm Reply with quote
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http://www.topfield.cc/files/Firebird/TopfHDRW_Setup.zip

Edit: The link doesn't seem to work now.


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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:24 pm Reply with quote
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...link doesn't work.

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Bizman
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:32 am Reply with quote
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You may have to use TFTool instead. It is available from http://www.kluesener99.de/tftool/index_en.html and I have checked that link (but not the download). Alternatively someone may have a copy of TopfHDRW as it is no longer supported and I couldn't find a TAP site that still has it.

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andyfras
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:10 am Reply with quote
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TopfHDRW is now available for download from my website:

https://sites.google.com/site/andyfraserelectronics/freeview-and-satellite-recorder-repair/topfield-pvr-faults/TopfHDRW_Setup.zip

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FireBird
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:35 pm Reply with quote
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Because topfield.cc had been shut down, I had to move. The generic rule is that if you replace

http://www.topfield.cc/files/Firebird/...

with

http://tap.topfield-europe.com/firebird/...

you should have access to the old files again.
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juwlz
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:19 pm Reply with quote
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I've started a separate thread with that info, and I'll get somebody to sticky it.

Julie

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juwlz
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:27 pm Reply with quote
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Here's the thread:
http://forum.toppy.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=265552#265552

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FireBird
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:34 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks, Julie. Smile
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