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EMJB

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:38 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3261 Location: Maldon Essex

Have just updated the Freeview.dat file to reflect the latest channel line-up, and the presence of EPG data for LCN 80. Download from here and install in /ProgramFiles/Settings/.

EMJB

Geoff Bacon

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:38 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2318 Location: Bristol ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Windows XP, USB

Quote:

Have just updated the Freeview.dat file to reflect the latest channel line-up, and the presence of EPG data for LCN 80. Download from here and install in /ProgramFiles/Settings/.

EMJB

Thank you for updating the file

An easier way to update the file on the toppy is to use the "Tools| Install Files| Freeview.dat" option

Geoff

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Phishpot

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:20 pm

Joined: 06 Oct 2011 Posts: 10 Location: Aberystwyth, Blaenplwyf transmitter

Thanks to the both of you for this; much appreciated!

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Geoff Bacon

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:21 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2318 Location: Bristol ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Windows XP, USB

I have just uploaded a new version (B1) of the PcControl.tap

To install this file:-
1) Run TopManager
2) Connection| Open
3) Tools| Install Files| PcControl
4) Reboot toppy.

Key features in version B1 (compared with X27a)

There have also been various changes to optimise the code, remove debugging code and overcome potential problems detected by EMJB and myself.

Many thanks to EMJB without whom this capability would not have been possible.

Geoff

billmars

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:10 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 678 Location: Hull

I'm seeing:-

Code:

Fetching PcControl.zip ...
Unzipping PcControl.zip
Fetching Freeview.dat ...
<<< Missing file: PcControl.tap

<<< Missing file: PcControl Readme.txt

Installation not completed (no files copied to Toppy)

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Geoff Bacon

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:14 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2318 Location: Bristol ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Windows XP, USB

Sorry about that, I uploaded to the wrong web page.

Should be ok now

Geoff

roga

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:09 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: City of London

Geoff Bacon wrote:

I have just uploaded a new version (B1) of the PcControl.tap

To install this file:-
1) Run TopManager
Geoff

Hi Geoff

Any chance you can give us a link to the file so can install manually (i don't have mine in autostart)

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TAPs: PcControl B1.3; MHEG On/Off A3; EIT Sub (Game) v0.6; Extend v1.7; Font Manager 1.0d; MPDisplayLITE V1.2; SecCache (UK) v0.4; EPG2MEI v0.96; MyStuff 6.4; (MyInfo B5.6);
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Geoff Bacon

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:18 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2318 Location: Bristol ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Windows XP, USB

@roga

Use the Tools|Install Files| PcControl option

If you don't want it in Auto Start, Use the Connection| Browse option to move it (or do it aa different way e.g. native operations with the remote)

Geoff

roga

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:51 am

Frequent contributor Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: City of London

Geoff: If you don't get why some of us would want to have control of what we download and where we put it, I don't know what to say

Geoff Bacon

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:45 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2318 Location: Bristol ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Windows XP, USB

@roga

I spend a lot of time developing TM so I was a bit taken aback at your last comment.

If you actually read the download screen, it tells you exactly from where the files are being downloaded and where they will be placed on the toppy.
If you don't want an automated install, you simply need to cancel it and perform the operations manually.

Geoff

YorkshireJumbo

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:32 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 473 Location: Yorkshire end of the M1

Just used this in anger for the first time today. What a useful piece of kit. It saves so much time faffing around moving files back and forwards. Much appreciated!

Two things which might make it even better:
1. When it stops and restarts TAPs in PcControl, it waits for TAPs to restart before trying to reconnect. Is the pause time configurable? My wait for MS to load the EPG and run its searches overran the timeout and failed, so I'd like to increase the timeout.

2. More of a niggle really - I edited EPG2MEI.ini to allow for BBC3 to run all day. When I later checked it after a rescan, the program had overwritten my changes. It took me a few minutes to find this out while wondering why BBC3 didn't have the correct EPG!

Finally a question: after exploring the functionality of this for a while, I checked my list of recordings to discover that about 25 files had been "moved" from a folder to datafiles. This is a folder of about 45 kids programmes. Now I'm not sure if the files were physically located in the folder, or if MS had virtually put them there. Is there any way that TopManager would have moved them?

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roga

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:05 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: City of London

Geoff Bacon wrote:

@roga
I spend a lot of time developing TM so I was a bit taken aback at your last comment.
Geoff

Geoff I think it is a very useful program, and it has saved me quite a bit of time, and I do appreciate the time you have spent on it. However I usually use the tap after a reboot holding down 0 and manually starting it for some specific purpose.

In the end I did download using the automated method, and then manually had to move the files. (BTW does it also download "freeview.dat"?)

Some people are happy with auto installs and things in their autostart, others want to retain control. e.g. with mystuff you can choose to download as an autoinstall, or to download the components and manually install. I think that to offer choice is good practice.

roga

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:16 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: City of London

YorkshireJumbo wrote:

More of a niggle really - I edited EPG2MEI.ini to allow for BBC3 to run all day. When I later checked it after a rescan, the program had overwritten my changes.

Hi YJ

I think TM & Channel Organiser get values from Freeview.dat and use them to change EPG2MEI.ini and extend.ini

Now I don't want to upset yet another person who has spent their time voluntarily creating valuable resources, but recently I have taken to manually editing all of the above files. See some of my posts in the thread No EPG info for 4seven on MyStuff

If Geoff has forgiven me enough to take on board a suggestion for new features in TM: any chance we could easily check and manually change the exclude sections of the above files?

Geoff Bacon

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:18 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2318 Location: Bristol ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Windows XP, USB

@YJ

Thanks for your comments.

The time taken for MS to restart is dependent on the number of searches you have. In 6.4, MS doesn't release control back to the PcControl tap until it has finished processing the request whereas MS 6.5 has been modified to return control immediately. The delay is not currently customisable (I had assumed that MS 6.5 would be available by now)

The PcControl| Channel Management always updates ancillary files (.ini/.mcl etc files) after a check or Finalize (it obtains the restrictions from Freeview.dat). So, if you want to change a restriction on a channel, you need to edit this file and then use the Channel Management Check button.
(Having said that, if you had only installed PcControl today, the installation would have overwritten any previous edits in this file).
EMJB manages Freeview.dat; any time I notice a problem I tell him and he updates the file (although this may not be announced to the world). i.e. before editing Freeview.dat, I suggest you do a "Tools| Install Files| Freeview.dat" to ensure you have the latest version. If that still needs changing then send a pm to EMJB.
Note: The file doesn't currently remove the restrictions on BBC3; I'll let him know.

TM wouldn't have moved your recordings; it doesn't process anything in \DataFiles (it could but the original design was to only do \ProgramFiles and it would need quite a bit of work to make it handle recordings in a logical manner). I suspect either that the files were never in the folder that you thought they were in or that you had a minor corruption of the file system (might be a good idea to do a Snapshot| Take to protect your \ProgramFiles)

Geoff

Geoff Bacon

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:29 pm

Frequent contributor Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2318 Location: Bristol ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Windows XP, USB

@roga

The current Freeview.dat file has no restrictions for 4Seven.

There is nothing to stop you manually changing Extend.ini and EPG2MEI.ini but you need to be aware that they will be overwritten when you next use TM Channel Management or ChannelOrganiser.tap.

Geoff

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