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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:12 pm Reply with quote
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@mstombs

Are you saying that, with Linux and Wine, Topset can successfully FTP to the toppy ? If so, can you post the FTP settings that you used (Server, Proxy and Sockets from the TopSet/Options/Connection screen) - you can omit the password if you want.

I don't have a slug but the info may give me a clue.

Geoff
PS: It would also be useful if you could post the FTP settings you normally use to access the slug

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mstombs
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:25 pm Reply with quote
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Sorry - no topset fails to connect to toppy. It does seem to connect to ftpd-topfield on the slug, but gets a "500 - command not supported reply"

The exact error dialog from topmanager is now

Code:
Connecting to Toppy...
     Attempting to create FTP objects
     Trying to open FTP connection to server: '192.168.0.3', User: 'anonymous', PW: 'password', and port 2121
     (This may take 15-20 seconds)
     Successfully logged onto server
     Checking visibility of directories on the Toppy
     Error: Unable to detect Toppy directories
     Please check that Toppy is switched On and connected to your server
     Closed Toppy Connection
<<< Connection failed


so it also seems to communicate with ftpd-topfield

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:27 pm Reply with quote
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The messages show that TM managed to connect to the slug but couldn't see any top level folders (specifically \ProgramFiles or \DataFiles) on the toppy disk.

Googling has produced the following that may help you:-
1)The Notes section on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Puppy/FtpdTopfield contains this:-
"Not getting the contents of the Topfield, but NSLU2 shares instead? Disable the builtin FTP server from the Linksys administration page and reboot."

2) This post confirms point 1

3) Check that you FtpdTopfield is version 0.7.4 or later

If disabling the builtin FTP doesn't work, you could try creating a temporary ProgramFiles folder on the slug disk (at the top level). If TM can then connect, the program should work if you can get it to see the toppy disk by default.
Cheers
Geoff

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mstombs
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:54 am Reply with quote
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ftpd-topfield definitely works on my slug using ftp or filezilla to browse directories - as long as TM is actually using the port specified! The local ftp server uses the standard port 21. Versions I am using:-

Code:
Using username "root".
root@192.168.0.3's password:

Welcome to Unslung V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.10-beta

   ---------- NOTE: THIS SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY UNSLUNG ----------


BusyBox v1.3.1 (2007-12-29 03:38:35 UTC) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

# ftpd-topfield --version
ftpd (Topfield ftpd) 0.7.7


if its any use this is the dialogue from a successful Filezilla connection, default remote folder is "/"
Code:
10:02:21   Status:   Connecting to 192.168.0.3:2121...
10:02:21   Status:   Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
10:02:21   Response:   220 SLUG FTP server (Topfield ftpd 0.7.7) ready.
10:02:21   Command:   USER root
10:02:21   Response:   331 Guest login ok, type your name as password.
10:02:21   Command:   PASS *****
10:02:21   Response:   230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
10:02:21   Command:   SYST
10:02:21   Response:   215 UNIX Type: L8 Version: Linux 2.4.22-xfs
10:02:21   Command:   FEAT
10:02:21   Response:   500 'FEAT': command not understood.
10:02:21   Status:   Connected
10:02:21   Status:   Retrieving directory listing...
10:02:21   Command:   PWD
10:02:21   Response:   257 "/" is current directory.
10:02:21   Command:   TYPE I
10:02:21   Response:   200 Type set to I.
10:02:21   Command:   PASV
10:02:21   Response:   227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,0,3,5,156)
10:02:21   Command:   LIST
10:02:21   Response:   150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'file list'.
10:02:21   Response:   226 Transfer complete.
10:02:21   Status:   Directory listing successful

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Darucla
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:19 pm Reply with quote
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I use an HDX-1000 to connect to my Topfield. This has its own FTP server at port 21, and FTPD at port 888. This works fluidly with all Topfield access from a PC.

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andyfras
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:05 pm Reply with quote
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I just ran TM on a Toppy I repaired and it came up with some confusing results in Analyse \ProgramFiles

<<< Need to remove: \ProgramFiles\Auto Start\mcgCYRResume.tap
<<< Need to remove: \ProgramFiles\Auto Start\mcgCYRResume.tap
<<< Need to remove: \ProgramFiles\Auto Start\mcgCYRResume.tap

<<< Elsewhere: \ProgramFiles\Settings\Firmware.dat - already in folder \ProgramFiles\Settings

Any idea why it repeated the first three times and what the second reult means?

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:24 pm Reply with quote
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Basically mcgCYRResume shouldn't be in Auto Start because
a) firmware contains Xp patch
b) firmware contains Xw patch and
c) MyStuff is in Auto Start
(the tests are separate - it would be too difficult to combine)

The Firmware.dat message looks wrong; guessing you have more than one file but it is flagging the wrong one (I did slightly change the logic for 1.1). If there is another copy, can you let me know where it is so that I can
try to replicate.

Cheers
Geoff

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andyfras
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:45 pm Reply with quote
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Geoff Bacon wrote:
The Firmware.dat message looks wrong; guessing you have more than one file but it is flagging the wrong one (I did slightly change the logic for 1.1). If there is another copy, can you let me know where it is so that I can try to replicate.

Sorry Geoff, it's all packaged up ready to be returned. I did delete mcgCYRResume though, and the three results make sense now that you've explained it.

One other oddity, it was running MyStuff 6.1 but TM didn't show MyStuff as being installed.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:25 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for the info Andy, I had thought that you may have sent it back.

I've no idea why it didn't think MyStuff was there - I'm still on 6.1 and it works here. Possibly because the tap name wasn't in the form mystuff*.tap (I allow any case for taps but case sensitive for other files).
Another possibility is that, if MyStuffOptionsExport.txt did not exist, some of the MyStuff options might not have been enabled.

Edit: Looking at the code, the existence of MyStuffOptionsExport.txt is a prerequisite for "Check MyStuff". If it happens again on another 6.1 system, just generate an export file before using "Check MyStuff".

Geoff

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Wolfie
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:14 am Reply with quote
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Geoff Bacon wrote:
@Wolfie:

Thanks for the info about Windows 7 64 bit.
Was that using the USB driver or using FTP (and which)?

Cheers
Geoff


It was using FTP into an ASUS router...

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:18 pm Reply with quote
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@Wolfie

Many thanks for the feedback; it helps me know that it works and aids others if they have a similar setup to yours.

Geoff

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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:37 am Reply with quote
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Hi Geoff,

Thanks for the update - 1.1.0.0 is looking good but it's not unbreakable in the wrong hands. Wink

Connection profiles don't seem to save (vista sp2, 32bit) so I've often been re-creating a profile at program start-up. The number of "Define New Connection" entries seems to be growing - I think there were originally 4 but I'm now seeing over 10. I've only ever made connections for one toppy - always with USB auto-detect and a profile name of "5800BP".

[quick test] In addition to '5800BP', I just created a new profile, "Test". On closing the program and re-starting 'Test' still exists but '5800BP' has gone. Hmmm, just created a "5800" - and that survives ... and now, so does '5800BP' ... and 'Test999'.

"Define New Connection"s are undeletable but attempting to Delete the test entries, gives the following 'TopManager' dialog:

Code:
Oops! Failed to delete C:\Users\Martin\AppData\Local\gbacon\TopManager\Cache_headers_Test.dat


The directory currently has:

Code:
Directory of C:\Users\Martin\AppData\Local\gbacon\TopManager

31/10/2010  09:20    <DIR>          .
31/10/2010  09:20    <DIR>          ..
25/10/2010  10:37    <DIR>          Baselines
31/10/2010  09:20             1,489 CacheEXEDLL.dat
27/10/2010  14:38             4,143 CacheHeaders_5800.dat
01/11/2010  10:46             3,964 CacheHeaders_5800BP.dat
01/11/2010  10:54    <DIR>          Temp
01/11/2010  10:59             3,477 TopManager Settings.bak
01/11/2010  11:00             3,654 TopManager Settings.ini
               5 File(s)         16,727 bytes

 Directory of C:\Users\Martin\AppData\Local\gbacon\TopManager\Baselines

25/10/2010  10:37    <DIR>          .
25/10/2010  10:37    <DIR>          ..
13/09/2010  16:36               764 EPG2MEI (5800BP,2010-09-13 1736).ini
25/10/2010  10:33               723 EPG2MEI (5800BP,2010-10-25 1133).ini
24/10/2010  15:01               706 Extend (5800BP,2010-10-24 1601).ini
25/10/2010  10:35               665 Extend (5800BP,2010-10-25 1135).ini
24/10/2010  09:14             3,090 MyInfo Log (5800BP,2010-10-24 1013).txt
24/10/2010  09:14             5,996 MyStuffOptionsExport (5800BP,2010-10-24 1014).txt
               6 File(s)         11,944 bytes

 Directory of C:\Users\Martin\AppData\Local\gbacon\TopManager\Temp

01/11/2010  10:54    <DIR>          .
01/11/2010  10:54    <DIR>          ..
25/10/2010  11:35               665 CurrentFile.txt
01/11/2010  10:44             5,995 MyStuffOptionsExport.txt
               2 File(s)          6,660 bytes

     Total Files Listed:
              13 File(s)         35,331 bytes
              11 Dir(s)  361,235,152,896 bytes free


Now, I'm not 100% sure about the next sequence but I deleted every user connection except for the last - "5800BP". Shutting down the program and re-starting there was no option to Open "5800BP" but to my surprise the profile did exist under Settings. I selected the profile to check that it was showing a connection method (it was; USB Auto) and this is where it gets vague. I think I cancelled the dialog and attempted to re-open the profile at which point a TopManager dialog popped up:
Code:
Access violation at address 00000000. Write of Address 00000000.
'OK' closed the program with what looked like a clean exit.

Just give me a shout if more info would be useful...
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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:10 pm Reply with quote
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@TopTapper

Thanks for the comprehensive report.

I'll fix the first problem ("Oops! Failed to Delete") in the next release. Basically, I've attempted to delete the file without checking it exists.

Have sent you a pm asking for more info.
Cheers
Geoff

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:54 pm Reply with quote
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@TopTapper.

A bug in V1.1 (and 1.0) means that the first character of the connection name needs to be a letter in the range to 'E' to 'Z' e.g. use TF5800BP rather than 5800BP

I will remove this restriction in the next release.

Many thanks for your help in identifying and helping me to track the source of this problem.

Geoff

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:56 pm Reply with quote
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TopManager may not be able to detect the installed patch list for some, but not all, versions of MyInfo B5.4; this is down to a minor change in the layout of MyInfo Log.txt. The problem primarily shows in the "Tools\Check MyStuff" menu.

The code has been changed ready for the next version (hopefully before Christmas). The next version will also include a snapshot capability for the \ProgramFiles tree; this will allow you to save the treee to the pc and/or restore files back to the toppy.

Geoff

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