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nwhitfield
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:15 pm Reply with quote
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Turbosat has just called to let me know that the Black Panther edition has arrived, in limited quantities.

A first shipment, of just over 100 units, has arrived. Some are already allocated to pre-orders, but others who are keen for a black Toppy should get in their quickly!

Nigel.


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panther
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:52 pm Reply with quote
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cool cheers for letting us know Smile
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RichieG
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:49 pm Reply with quote
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Hi,
This is my first posting, hopefully it'll appear correctly.

I Pre-ordered the Black Panther through Turbosat at the start of the month, it's just turned up and looks great.
Turbosat have been excellent with their service I can't recommend them highly enough.

Had a quick look at the machine everything looks fine.
(I'm at work at the moment so can't test it at all, and don't know what firmware has been installed)

My only concern is that the disk installed is a Seagate (ST3160022A)! Hopefully this version will be quieter than the types I've read about....fingers crossed

The spec can be found here:
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/ata/st3160022a.html

Anyway will look at setting it up tonight, although I haven't yet got my new aerial installed.
Richie
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Richard46
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:28 pm Reply with quote
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Hi Richie (& welcome to the forum) Smile

Would be interested to hear how you get onto tonight; was just thinking of ordering a Panther. I already have a silver one with a Seagate but I want to change my forum name to TwoToppies. Cool

Regards Richard
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Mark_R
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:55 pm Reply with quote
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Richie,

Are you sure it is a seagate drive?
I thought it was meant to have the Samsung drive like has been shipped in the silver model since mid may.
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RichieG
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:26 pm Reply with quote
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Yup, positive details that I can read being:

U Series 9
Model: ST3160022A
S/N: 5-16512WA (This line's difficult to read)
P/N: 9W6024-177

I can't see the word "Seagate", but ST normally prefixes all Seagate drives.
I'm a bit gutted by this discovery....just hope it's a quiet disk version.
It is odd as I believed these were a new model and thus would have the new drives. Next test is to find out the firmware version.
If it's V5.11.52 then I guess these Panthers are older models with a new front panel. :(

Hopefully some other BP recipients can confim details.
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Mark_R
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:53 pm Reply with quote
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Richie,

Why not give Turbosat a call and discuss it with them. They have a reputation for being very helpful.

Mark
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RichieG
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:07 pm Reply with quote
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Hi again,
I've spoken to Turbosat, again they were extremely helpful and knowledgeable on the Toppy. (Certainly worth paying a few pounds more to know you'll get great service with these new devices methinks)

Anyway, there is a transitional period where the Seagate drives are being phased out. I've ended up with one of these drives and it looks like the drives will continue to be supplied until the new order of Samsung drives appears, within the next couple of months.
The noise didn't seem any louder than a normal disk drive, maybe a bit "clicky", and it may get worse once the drive gets fragmented...time will tell. Any Samsung drive that have been received to date were from a test batch of around 800 drives.

One point of note, my Black Panther has a firmware release from 21st June 2005 (5.11.91). I'm not sure what new features have been included, hopefully it is a stable release...
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nwhitfield
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:17 pm Reply with quote
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5.11.91?

I'd be interested to see how you get on with that... I didn't realise that release made it on to any shipping units.

Nigel.

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RichieG
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:35 pm Reply with quote
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Indeed, Turbosat were a bit suprised as well.

As I've never used one of these units before I may well not recognise any of the new features, but I will keep you all informed.

I'm waiting to re-arrange a date for an engineer to come and replace my aerial/cabling. At the moment I can only view BBC1-4 and CBBC, the signal is very poor. The early delivery of the Panther has caught me out. :)

I also need to get a SCART -> RGB/YUV cable for connection to my AV Amp.
I hope this will be OK:

Vivanco 3 x phono RGB to Scart (12300 SICSR 1302 2m) 11.69

http://www.vivanco-direct.com/acatalog/Sound___Image.html

Richie
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Darkmatter
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:49 pm Reply with quote
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Oh dear?that?s the version we rejected as it introduced a couple of serious issues. At the time the Oz community was recommending not to upgrade to that version.

A major problem concerns losing recording when dual recording. More information is available over on the Oz forums ? they refer to it as the June firmware.

You?ll have less problems if you downgrade to latest official release for now.
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dry cork
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:32 am Reply with quote
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All in all that sounds a bit disappointing. Wrong firmware and the use of a drive that others have been hoping to avoid. Have these early 100 shippers been planned this way to get rid of stock that won't sell in Oz.

I'm glad I didn't adopt early. Think I'll wait until everyone is happy(ier).

What was on the competition winner's model re firm ware?

'Cork


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RichardEast
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:07 pm Reply with quote
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Oh great! I have just received a Black Panther too. Mine is exactly the same as RichieG's.

I have done a few tests and so far it has been fine. However I have just started it recording two channels at once. You can certainly hear the driving clicking away although it is not that loud.

I waited for this version to arrive as I assumed it would have the new drive. Rats!

I have recorded some programmes using either tuner and it worked fine. Now I am worried the drive noise will get worse with time.

I'll talk to Turbosat on Monday. Crying or Very sad

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nwhitfield
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:18 pm Reply with quote
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Drive noise does not generally get worse with time.

We did anticipate when the last shipment came in, fitted with Samsung drives, that all the new ones would have them; turns out that's not the case.

But before you get too carried away, remember that the vast majority of people with Seagate drives have no problems either. Unless your drive is very noisy, there is no point worrying about the brand, and even less point in demanding a replacement, in my view.

If the box works, and you can't hear it, does it actually matter?

Nigel.

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Refrenz
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:58 am Reply with quote
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nwhitfield wrote:
... remember that the vast majority of people with Seagate drives have no problems either ...


Indeed, there are no doubt other people like myself out there who have Seagate drives installed with no noticeable noise coming from it, even when listening about 6 to 12" away from the unit whilst dual-recording and playing back a file at the same time. Smile
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