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StuntMonkeh
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:57 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jun 2006 Posts: 13
My toppy 5800 started formatting the hard drive randomly until now it was infrequent enough to ignore.

Recently it happened again and now I can't install MyStuff. The install fails randomly when doing even the simplest task of creating or renaming folders etc.

The drive is a 1TB Samsung drive but it appears to be okay. No weird clicking etc.

Its getting a bit old now so is it the dreaded power supply?

Voltages are all okay apart from the +15v which appears to be at +16.4v. Is this the problem?

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juwlz
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:18 pm Reply with quote
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StuntMonkeh wrote:
My toppy 5800 started formatting the hard drive randomly until now it was infrequent enough to ignore.
It's always a mistake to ignore issues like this. Fixing PSUs at the first sign of problems saves money in the long run. Otherwise, you just let it get bad enough to potentially permanently damage other components.

Having said that, there is another problem that causes disk wipes when you're recording from channels with poor signal. Making sure you only have channels from a single transmitter and aggressive channel pruning can help with this. But it does sound as though you have a hardware problem in this case.

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StuntMonkeh
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:43 pm Reply with quote
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Yes, I have noticed the box restarts etc if I get a really bad signal. I have fixed that issue now.

So does the slightly higher voltage indicate a PSU failure?

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juwlz
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:11 pm Reply with quote
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I'll leave Andy or somebody else who knows their electronics to answer that one.

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andyfras
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:47 pm Reply with quote
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StuntMonkeh wrote:
Its getting a bit old now so is it the dreaded power supply?

Almost certainly, if your forum join date is indicative of the age of your Toppy.

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Voltages are all okay apart from the +15v which appears to be at +16.4v. Is this the problem?

I'd be interested to see the other voltages, especially 3.3V.

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StuntMonkeh
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:34 am Reply with quote
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Other voltages are as follows, HDD still plugged in.

33v = 33v
18v = 17.9v
15v = 16.4v
5v = 4.8v
3.3v = 3.3v

Yup Toppy is as old as my join date. Its done well really.

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andyfras
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:21 am Reply with quote
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The low 5V and high 30V, 17V, 15V (and presumably 8V, 12V and 24V) indicate failed capacitors. The 3.3V has its own regulator, so isn't affected in the same way.

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Geoff Bacon
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:37 pm Reply with quote
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If you can't fix it, I can vouch for andyfras repairing and returning the psu very quickly (thanks again Andy).

Geoff

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StuntMonkeh
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:05 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for your help. I purchased a soldering iron a week or two back for an Arduino based project so I may have a stab at fixing it myself.

Virgin phoned me up the other day offering me a Tivo box for 3 per month. I'm tempted to take them up on the offer and retire the Topfield... Crying or Very sad

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andyfras
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:45 pm Reply with quote
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StuntMonkeh wrote:
I may have a stab at fixing it myself.

I've sent you a PM with details of my capacitor kit.

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juwlz
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:30 am Reply with quote
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StuntMonkeh wrote:
Virgin phoned me up the other day offering me a Tivo box for 3 per month.
There'as a thread about that Wink.

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