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preston
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:23 pm Reply with quote
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I'm upgrading my SD CRT TV to something 40 inch and HD.

I supose I need to think about the PVR at the same time. Avoid duplicating expensive features.

I'm sticking with freeview but would be interested in interactive services. HD tuner a must.

What have the toppy owners been replacing their toppys with? Anything up and comming and cutting edge like the toppy was all those years ago?

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alan_m
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:55 pm Reply with quote
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preston wrote:
I'm upgrading my SD CRT TV to something 40 inch and HD.

I supose I need to think about the PVR at the same time. Avoid duplicating expensive features.

I'm sticking with freeview but would be interested in interactive services. HD tuner a must.



Why not use your Toppy for SD and recording and the HD tuner built into the TV for HD viewing - assuming that you are looking for a TV with a HD tuner

Not a recommendation, but if TVonics was on your short list of boxes be aware they went into administration on 12th June.

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gomezz
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:56 pm Reply with quote
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Have used my DigitalStream Freeview HD PVR for some time now my opinion is that it is very rough round the edges and justifies the budget price I paid for it.

From what I gather the Humax Freeview HD PVR suffers the same clunky UI as their Freesat HD PVR so that is off my list of recommendations.

TBH the cupboard is bare for anything approaching anywhere near the functionality and usability of a customised Toppy.

That said Youview boxes are on the horizon but there is no certainty that they will do any better at getting the basics right with effort instead concentrated on the fripperies of making them "internet capable".

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DX
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:58 pm Reply with quote
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preston wrote:
I'm upgrading my SD CRT TV to something 40 inch and HD.

I supose I need to think about the PVR at the same time.

You might be abe to postpone getting a new pvr by your choice of TV. My Panasonic TV will record to an external Hard Drive. I used it in the early days of Freeview HD (no HD pvr was available then). You could continue to use your Toppy for SD recordings and supplement it by using the TV for the occasional HD recording.

Personally I went for a HTPC running Windows 7 Media Center and have found that excellent for my needs. The downside is it is an expensive route.

For a more conventional Freeview HD pvr I think it is either the Humax HDR Fox T2 or the Digital Stream. The Humax probably has the edge in features but the Digital Stream is cheaper.
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msteggalls
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:39 am Reply with quote
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DX wrote:
You might be abe to postpone getting a new pvr by your choice of TV. My Panasonic TV will record to an external Hard Drive. I used it in the early days of Freeview HD (no HD pvr was available then). You could continue to use your Toppy for SD recordings and supplement it by using the TV for the occasional HD recording.

That's exactly what I do at the moment - most recording in HD is now done on external HDD via my Panasonic TV, except when there are two programs on at the smae time on want to record when one is recorded via the Toppy (or if both HD and one is BBC then downloaded via get_iplayer, although this is not often)

This means over the last year, I now watch very liitle new via the Toppy, and and just really catching up with anything that I haven't watched yet!

Have thought at times about getting a HD PVR for when recording two HD programs, but haven't yet, although if did guess first option to look at would be a Humax, but may be better ones out there now....

Martyn

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juwlz
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:57 am Reply with quote
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I still don't think there's anything that can hold a candle to the UI of a Toppy running MyStuff. (OK, obviously I'm biased).

We have a Freesat Humax PVR (it was going cheap in John Lewis, and the previous owner or our house had already installed a satellite dish for Sky - which we don't subscribe to), but it only really gets used for watching live (and then mostly just sports) because I hate so many things about the UI. If our TV had built in HD tuners it would probably never get switched on.

There's nothing to say that you have to update your PVR at the same time as changing your TV. Treat the two things as separate, and leave the HD PVR until there's something worth having at a price you're happy with.

Julie


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toodeep
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:52 am Reply with quote
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I'm another that uses the crude PVR capabilities of my Panasonic TV to make recordings from the one HD mux and use my Toppy for everything else. I've even deleted all non-HD services from the TV.

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preston
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:02 am Reply with quote
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Thanks everyone. 5 replies overnight. Wow, I had assumed there weren't many of us left.
Very Happy

Yes Juwlz - Agree UI of mystuff is something special.

I'll probably leave the PVR for a while then.
Taking that into consideration I'm looking for a TV with:
    HD tuners
    Ability to record to (and play from) external HDD
    Internet connection (wireless) for iPlayer et al.

I have my features list now. Thanks again.

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juwlz
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:12 am Reply with quote
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preston wrote:
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If that signature's current, you'd be well advised to update to MyStuff 6.4 (which will also give you MyInfo 5.6 and some additional utilities). This will help protect against disk wipes caused by recording channels with poor signal (a firmware bug). It's also wise (for the same reason) to delete all channels with persistently poor signal - an anyway, deleting unwanted channels will improve Toppy performance.

If it's just the signature that's out of date, it's time to update it Wink.

Julie

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js5800
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:57 pm Reply with quote
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You can get the Tvonics and Digital Stream for about 130 now Tvonics have gone bust, both are about equal with plenty of bugs. There's not much chance of the Tvonics bugs getting fixed now though. I believe the Humax is the pick of the bunch with custom firmware available for it, but it's pricey.

I have the Digital Stream and although it's buggy and quirky to say the least, it's been reliable for recordings - the most important thing. I only use it for HD though, the Topfield still does the most work. There are two developers working on user mods for the DS now so it may get better in the future.

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matt
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:46 pm Reply with quote
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I'm still looking for a HD Toppy replacement. It's likely to be a long wait!

I'll probably go with the SD Toppy, HD TV PVR route when I get my next TV.

matt

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