Although my log shows I managed to set the one-off timer with less than 30 seconds left to go. Does this mean MyStuff is conservatively allocating 3 minutes to allow for its own CT processing time?

And, more importantly, what happens when MyStuff runs a scheduled rescan in such circumstances?

The clash warning MS provides when a timer has already started is because we cannot currently adjust an ongoing recording via the API, and so we use the warning instead.

But the recording didn't need adjusting. The timer just needed to be set, as it had happily been before. I really don't understand this prohibition. I've just tried something very similar and a "!" is not a warning: such a timer won't record!

Lastly, getting the Toppy to add padding to both back2back timers on the same channel, is one of those mysteries that is not limited to MS, it can happen with a TAPless Toppy too.

Ah -- so you're saying that the Toppy will sometimes refuse to set timers that will record two things at once? That's a little strange.

I've just checked my log and initially the CT+OneOff were set seemingly without the padding, and then many hours and shutdowns later the padding was added (although I've just noticed that FpLogger does not consider the end time of a timer when distinguishing them, so I can only see what happened to the second timer).

And I've had loads of recordings with the pair of CTs which have always had the padding removed. The second timer has never been set with padding, not even temporarily (so I guess the Toppy is consistently refusing this one, even though the timers don't occur at the same time every day). In case someone else wants to have a bash at it, the CTs in question are Peppa Pig and Thomas & Friends on Five. They always have the padding removed for me. I'll see if I can try a few different things, but CT priority made no difference (even at opposite ends of my 27 long CT list).

Lastly, getting the Toppy to add padding to both back2back timers on the same channel, is one of those mysteries that is not limited to MS, it can happen with a TAPless Toppy too.

The problem with pop-up's is that we'd need to make them configurable so that users comfortable with the 2 options for playing back a recording are not constantly interrupted. That's a lot of effort for something that will become second nature after a short period anyway.


But pop-ups for one-off functions are very unlikely I'm afraid.

I don't see how a recording will be interupted.... you select what you want to watch a pop-up appears with 2 options. Choose the option you desire and away you go. Just seems so simple.
The other method requires memory & can lose chase play if wrong button is pressed (I think that's what I did the other day).
IF these functions are used a lot then yes you will remember them. Everything is only second nature when you do something frequently & often.

However I don't think I'm gonna be running up an convincing argument.

Sorry, lost the plot, what scheduled scan? MS only scans when it detects that eit2mei has updated the freeview.mei file.

But if you can replicate the clash symbol let us know and we'll give it another thashing round the team.

I'm saying that since we rely on the Toppy API for setting timers, if there's a bug that allows you to get padding on consecutive timers on the same channel, it's a Toppy API bug, not a MyStuff bug.

What are your padding settings again? I see that Peppa Pig is only 5 mins long, if your padding settings are the same or greater than the duration of the program, then the padding logic in MS is likely to fail.

I have -2/+4 and I get the pre padding on Peppa Pig and the post padding on T&F, which is what I would expect given my padding settings.

In that case I'd say you do indeed have a very real clashing timer.

This was largely to do with handing excessive excess timers (ie 270+ timers) But that has long since been resolved.

Unless of course you've found a way or re-creating with your CT priority testing

Feature suggestion I've recently started using CTs and it's struck me that the technology might easily be extended from "Record" and "Watch" timers to something like "Interesting". This would not strictly speaking be a timer, but a way of flagging entries in the EPG as "interesting". The EPG would be searched in exactly the same way, but no timers would be set. Instead, the relevant EPG items would be highlighted, maybe in a similar way to the existing C, R and F icons, or maybe by changing the background colour (with maybe different colours for different types of "interesting"?). This way you could see the interesting stuff in the EPG at a glance. Of course, the downside is that people might want to make an awful lot more CTs and start putting a lot of strain on the system...

Feature suggestion I've recently started using CTs and it's struck me that the technology might easily be extended from "Record" and "Watch" timers to something like "Interesting".

Feature request Could the list of Timers also include the currently recording timers, too? I know they appear on the Archive, but it would be helpful to see them on the Timers list, too, so you can easily spot potential clashes without having to jump between the two lists.